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    Post by Hybrid Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:05 am

    yellow knife wrote:Hybrid

    I warmly welcome your criticism... Indeed I too recalculate my assumptions , conclusions once I had to face arguments like yours...

    Tourists are branded by those who involved in tourism with nice nick names..

    We who read the same book may have different views about the book after reading.. Having arguments like this will be beneficial for both...

    Thanx Hybrid for make me to see your side as well

    with this I may move onto another area that is different types of tourists ....

    It's fine with me.

    Stating ones opinion and leaving it to the reader is best.
    Each person has to take a call on pursuing or acting on advice.
    Your articles are appreciated and shows much work and effort despite you being busy.

    The Members will benefit from your presence and contribution!
    Appreciate your good attitude which is rare!

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    Post by yellow knife Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:03 am

    Thanx Hybrid

    Let me start up with

    Gambling Tourists...

    Chinese are notorious in Casino Tourism... Maccau Island purely depend on gambling tourism of Chinese.

    Venetian of Maccau is the popular destination among Chinese Gamblers

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    Post by yellow knife Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:17 am

    In " The Chinese Way to Wealth and Prosperity" by Michael Justin Lee Venetian is described as follows..


    ( Writer talks about this at the end of the book and says Casino is a bad habit among Chinese and not a trait to be copied...)


    "The Venetian alone has 550,000 square feet of casino space with 3,400 slot machines and 800 gambling tables. In addition the Venetian provide guest with a 15,000 seat arena , 3000 suites and 1,200,000 square feet of convention space. There are probably entire cities that could rest comfortably within the Venetians' confines. "

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    Post by yellow knife Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:10 am

    VISA processing is also a consideration in tourist related  promotions... Macau Islands Visa process is transparent

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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:38 am

    JKH-Dy. Chariman says to focus on Chinese and Indian tourists...


    Says this is not a case of east versus west but simple economics..

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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:31 am

    Gambling Tourism is one option but not the only one.

    Saudi Arab attract 12-18 million tourists per annum and that's Religious tourism.
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:37 am

    Researches on religious tourism

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    Another research with following chapters

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    Religious Tourism in Sri Lanka...................................................................... 257
    16.1 Religious Characteristics ..................................................................... 258
    16.2 Sri Lankan Tourism ............................................................................. 260
    16.3 Famous Religious Sites in Sri Lanka for International Tourists ........... 262
    16.4 Following the Trail of Ramayana in Sri Lanka ..................................... 270
    16.5 Sri Lankan Outbound Tourism............................................................. 271
    16.6 Conclusions ......................................................................................... 271


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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:46 am

    Makkah Royal Clock Tower hotel is built to attract upper end tourist a midst protest by some.

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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:50 am

    By now the world is competing each other with state-of-art engineering work to attract tourists.. Modern buildings too attract tourists.

    Tallest buildings of the world


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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:43 am

    yellow knife wrote:Gambling Tourism is one option but not the only one.

    Saudi Arab attract 12-18 million tourists per annum and that's Religious tourism.

    So then let us also create a polittikka cult and say that all adherents have to come to Madamulana and go around the vashi boley 7 times every year.

    Defa we could get around 12 million politikka tourists per annum.
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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:45 am

    yellow knife wrote:By now the world is competing each other with state-of-art engineering work to attract tourists.. Modern buildings too attract tourists.

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    Ithin apith haduwey Lotus Tower and the grain storage in Mattala. Defa that can attact some tourists.
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:53 am

    Yes SL has to position its image in tourist world

    Regarding Mattala

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    If we make Mattala to Mattanpola as a result of Yahaplana, .....SORRY.COM
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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:59 am

    yellow knife wrote:


    If we make Mattala to Mattanpola as a result of Yahaplana, .....SORRY.COM

    Prashney thiyenne Mattala runway eka hadala thiyenne Appachchige Royal Asstrologerge advice eka uda lu. Land karanda mara fight ekak denda one lu pilots lata.
    On top of that they have to evade the Birds and the elephants on the runway.
    Some two legged elephants have stored grain in the hangers also.
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:08 am

    Let me take time and re-check what I mention with the right source..

    In one or Richard Branson books (either Losing my Virginity or Businees Screwed Bare) he discuss about moving form entertainment business to air lines.

    Before obtaining commercial licence he had a test run in a remote airport and the birds attack was on the first plane..

    Birds attack is there for any air port until they get used to it... any way give me some time to check with the source and come back...
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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:01 pm

    yellow knife wrote:

    Before obtaining commercial licence he had a test run in a remote airport and the birds attack was on the first plane..

    Birds attack is there for any air port until they get used to it... any way give me some time to check with the source and come back...

    When doing the check also check the difference between remote air port where Cessnas fly and international quality air ports where 747s are expected to fly.
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:21 pm

    Tell me first

    Which should come first

    Infrastructure or its utility
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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:34 pm

    yellow knife wrote:Tell me first

    Which should come first

    Infrastructure or its utility

    Infrastructure should be built after proper planning it should not be built because it's the easiest way to earn commissions nor should it be built in a particular electorate to catch votes and jobs for the boys. It is the height of stupidity to build a runway in the direction advised by a royal astrologer instead of an industry expert.

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    MRIA: Biggest insult to aviation
    Mattala Rajapaksa International Airport, says an industry expert, with sheer disdain, “is the biggest insult to aviation done in the name of furthering aviation by any Head of State, Minister of Aviation or anyone I have known in my entire career.”
    There are so many things awry with Mattala. Practitioners do not know where to begin. The runway orientation is wrong. “It is so wrong that the airport is doomed,” was the direst opinion expressed.The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO)’s manual for aerodrome construction specifies that wind speed and direction must be taken into account when building a runway. An aircraft must land into the wind (“headwind”, as it is called).
    As confirmed by several sources, as well as a senior retired air traffic controller, the wind blows perpendicular to the centre line of the runway at MRIA — that is, across it. This is called “crosswind” and is the worst type of condition for landing. A cursory glance at the wind sock gives indication of this.“As a matter of interest — but something that most readers would not find surprising — Sri Lankan pilots were not consulted when MRIA was constructed,” Captain G.A. Fernando, a vocal retired aviator, is on record as saying. “Today, aircraft landing there in the afternoon experience crosswinds of over 30 knots, which could be over the demonstrated crosswind limits for some aircraft.”While heavy planes might manage with a technique called “crab-landing”, these circumstances are particularly dangerous to light training aircraft which can get pushed off the runway by gusting wind. “You can never have ab initio flying training at Mattala,” declared another industry expert. “If you permit it, you are paving the way for a serious accident. We are now saddled forever with an airport whose runway orientation is wrong.”The airstrip, at 3,500m long and 60m wide, is capable of landing an A380 aircraft. But it has no parallel taxiway which is essential for big, heavy aircraft. A plane landing away from the terminal will have to do a 180-degree turn at the end of the runway and retrace its path.The wear and tear inflicted on the airstrip and on the wheels of the aircraft by this manoeuvre is immense. If, on top of everything, there are also no passengers on board, the operation becomes financially unfeasible. These factors could explain why, despite all the bragging, the expected traffic did not arrive on the longest runway in the country.Another reason could be the Government’s insistence of protecting the national carrier at the expense of its airports and aviation industry. “Introducing an open skies policy to Mattala has no meaning when Katunayake has restricted freedoms,” said an official, also requesting anonymity. “Whenever international airlines ask for more operating rights, SriLankan Airlines blocks it for fear of competition.”“But what is the return on investment on an airline?” he asked. “In contrast, what is the return on investment on an airport? Every international aviation hub is a thundering financial success.”Many of the other flaws are widely known including elephants on the access road (particularly at night, as there is no protective fencing along the route) and birds. The Civil Aviation Authority’s statistics show that as many as 15 bird strikes were recorded at MRIA in 2014, four times more than the previous year.
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:41 pm

    Well I have read above article and thankful to the expertise view which created ripples ..

    However I ve seen many experts who found many mistakes with Magampura Harbour and simply remember Dayasiri's Gala...

    In the same way I remember Vinnie Hettigoda's lamp post cartoon against Day-Night cricket stadium Kettarama during President Premadas's era

    I remember the same kind of expertise view against Kandalama Hotel and remember CBK sart anti-Kandalama walk from Colombo campus...
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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:39 pm

    Well let us see how many tourists arrivals Appachchi's namesake airport draws in 10 years. That is the only way to see if the debt funding and the hora commissions were worth it?
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:47 pm

    Sorry Jiggy

    Now only I found the relevant page in Losing my Virginity...It appear in page 203..

    " Then there was a loud bang from outside. The plane lurched to left and a massive flash of flames then a long trail of black smoke poured out from one of the engines...

    In that horrible stunned silence the CAA official put his arm round my shoulder.

    " Dont worry Richard" He said. " These things happen. We had flown into a flock of birds. and one of the engines had stucked in some of them and exploded.."

    That is the first plane Virgin group purchased. It has flown from Seatle the other day's night and no particulars about the airport where it came from in UK ..No the word remote airport is there...

    Anyway Richard had to face this alone as until a commercial licence is taken a plane is not getting insurance..

    Mind you next day they have to get the repair and obtain the commercial license and following day they have inaugural flight prepared for New York with 250 journalists on board. That is the risk an entrepreneur undertake..

    If Richard was a brilliant Sri Lankan politician I am sure he should have used the engine troubled plane to stock paddy....
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:21 am

    jiggysaurus wrote:Well let us see how many tourists arrivals Appachchi's namesake airport draws in 10 years. That is the only way to see if the debt funding and the hora commissions were worth it?


    සුරංගනා කතා තවත් නොකියනු මැන jiga

    ගුවන්යානයක් හදිසියෙන් බෑවයි මත්තල Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


    Anyway thread is discussing about an important sector of Sri Lanka and thats tourism. If Sri Lanka wants more revenue out of tourism having a second air-port and all other infrastructure development is important...
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    Post by jiggysaurus Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:23 am

    yellow knife wrote:
    jiggysaurus wrote:Well let us see how many tourists arrivals Appachchi's namesake airport draws in 10 years. That is the only way to see if the debt funding and the hora commissions were worth it?


    සුරංගනා කතා තවත් නොකියනු මැන jiga

    ගුවන්යානයක් හදිසියෙන් බෑවයි මත්තල Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



    So what's the big deal? If 200 million USD + the commissions were used to build an airport in Jaffna the flight would have landed there. The problem is that Appachchi wasted the peoples money and got his astrologer to design a useless overpriced paddy storage.

    Let's start the count for the next 10 years shall we
    2015- One emergency flight landed with 244 passengers - Cost of the airport USD 200million + in debt and interest payments.
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    Post by Gaudente Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:44 am

    jiggysaurus wrote:
    We only get 1 million because of our reputation as a war torn mess.
    Nope, you get 1 million because your hotel rates are a rip off beyond shame. Who comes to Sri Lanka once never comes back again , that's why you get only 1 million (new suckers) each year.
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    Post by Gaudente Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:48 am

    කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:
    Word of mouth is very powerful.
    especially in the internet era.
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    Post by Gaudente Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:52 am

    yellow knife wrote:Sri Lankan performance is better to compare with Maldives

    Sri Lanka is overtaking its competitor of the region by volume
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    no wonder, Maldives is an even worse rip off than you are... compare with Thailand instead Rolling Eyes


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