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    Post by smallville Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:56 pm

    I dont think buying this at 60 would be a big issue.. After all, it has value and a Rs. 2/- divi too..
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    Post by GroundedKestrel Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:22 am

    Woohooo.. Dividend XD tomorrow Very Happy
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    Post by smallville Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:38 pm

    Oops... I missed the XD.. It seems this has not hold ground today also so no hopes for tomorrow to hold 59 either Sad
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    Post by Future123 Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:59 pm

    http://cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/949_1433414195.pdf

    Annual report is out. Seems like the journey is going very well and VFIN has a very positive outlook in the future. The management is continuously focusing on growth and expansion.

    People who really know the value of VFIN would hold this for amazing returns in the next few quarters.


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    Post by Future123 Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:34 pm

    The Director started buying again. He knows the potential of VFIN.

    http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/1241433486282_949.pdf
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    Post by GroundedKestrel Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:58 pm

    Time for iron nerves and steel balls people.

    Don't falter.
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    Post by First Guy Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:21 pm

    It's good to have the weaker holders drop out (same happening with PARQ?)

    CIND and VFIN dropped considerably after dividend was announced.
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    Post by smallville Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:46 am

    First Guy wrote:It's good to have the weaker holders drop out (same happening with PARQ?)

    CIND and VFIN dropped considerably after dividend was announced.

    But I doubt neither of these are weak in their fundamental values.. I was specially interested in VFIN & PARQ.. Yes PARQ was not up to the expectations of us yet delivered well enuf.. More or less I feel like fallin below 63-65 is a game.. If market has no strength, if ppl fear on parliament dissolvement news, 55 would not even hold ground.

    Then VFIN, as per earnings, its still trading below 2PBV amidst a good 2 rupee dividend.. Something aint right..
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    Post by Jana1 Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:19 pm

    Profit booming counters always show price appriciation in the recent mkt. Less attention is given to NAV. Say Rexp, COCR, Tyre. I guess PARQ is that track. VFIN is also same but top guys may not prefer.
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    Post by Future123 Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:39 pm

    I think as far it's trading at a PE below 10 and NAV less than 2 it's very safe. VFIN deserves to be trading at a premium due to expansion and profit growth Q on Q.

    VFIN opens at least 6 branches a year and we can see earnings growth in the future. For me this is a stock for the future. The future dividends will be much higher than present once they open up the branches.
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    Post by First Guy Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:26 pm

    smallville wrote:
    First Guy wrote:It's good to have the weaker holders drop out (same happening with PARQ?)

    CIND and VFIN dropped considerably after dividend was announced.

    But I doubt neither of these are weak in their fundamental values.. I was specially interested in VFIN & PARQ.. Yes PARQ was not up to the expectations of us yet delivered well enuf.. More or less I feel like fallin below 63-65 is a game.. If market has no strength, if ppl fear on parliament dissolvement news, 55 would not even hold ground.

    Then VFIN, as per earnings, its still trading below 2PBV amidst a good 2 rupee dividend.. Something aint right..

    I didn't mean the stocks as weak. I meant those 'weak' holders of the stock. As I mentioned in the SDB thread as I remember, there are some who get into a speeding bus, panic and sell when it stops shortly afterwards. I find these to be different to long term investors and technical traders but those who just try to join the bandwagon. They are capable of taking a stock high and bring it low as well.
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    Post by pathfinder Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:26 pm

    First Guy wrote:

    I didn't mean the stocks as weak. I meant those 'weak' holders of the stock. As I mentioned in the SDB thread as I remember, there are some who get into a speeding bus, panic and sell when it stops shortly afterwards. I find these to be different to long term investors and technical traders but those who just try to join the bandwagon. They are capable of taking a stock high and bring it low as well.

    Correction happens when stocks move from shaky weak hands to stronger hands.At the moment VFIN and PARQ are showing real time examples. Wink
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    Post by Jana1 Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:44 am

    Guys, PARQ is not going to show any big profit in Q2, but if sum1 know its capability, they could collect it...

    But that is construction industry, could be vulnerable quite high compare to banking. If you are happy with the profit simple say Bye. Don't dream too much...Smile
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    Post by Future123 Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:39 am

    Going cheap at 55/=. Very good price for collection.

    This will be the next LFIN.
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    Post by mymoney Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:45 am

    VFIN, PARQ both have retraced 50% of the recent run.
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    Post by GroundedKestrel Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:44 pm

    https://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/3681434701795_.pdf

    This guy is a boss! Nearly 50,000 shares purchased... again!

    Inspiration to all Managing Directors everywhere! Uses his hard earned money to buy stock in the entity he runs. If that isn't having skin in the game, i don't know what is! Smile
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    Post by Leon Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:54 pm

    GroundedKestrel wrote:https://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/3681434701795_.pdf

    This guy is a boss! Nearly 50,000 shares purchased... again!

    Inspiration to all Managing Directors everywhere! Uses his hard earned money to buy stock in the entity he runs. If that isn't having skin in the game, i don't know what is! Smile

    He is the fourth (Not sure) in the list now. I don't think he is risking his money. And also he doesn't sell.
    He knows true value & the potential of the company.
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    Post by Future123 Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:35 pm

    He is the best person who knows the company's position better than anyone. Now he has started buying from his wife's account. Within 3 days around 50,000 shares been collected and this time wife has collected more shares than him.

    For me VFIN is a share which can easily reach 200/= within 4 years or well before as the expansion is rapidly happening and Q on Q profit growth is seen. LFIN had a similar growth like this couple of years ago.

    http://cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/1631434701869_949.pdf
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    Post by First Guy Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:49 pm

    Future123 wrote:He is the best person who knows the company's position better than anyone. Now he has started buying from his wife's account. Within 3 days around 50,000 shares been collected and this time wife has collected more shares than him.

    For me VFIN is a share which can easily reach 200/= within 4 years or well before as the expansion is rapidly happening and Q on Q profit growth is seen. LFIN had a similar growth like this couple of years ago.

    http://cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/1631434701869_949.pdf

    It's always best not to follow someone without knowing their strategy and investment goals. Most here seem to be (long term) investors so it's 'ok' I think. At least now we can say that the MD will ensure that the company performs Wink

    Let's not go giving out too optimistic prices. yes it is a possibility but it has to keep growing at a good pace for next four years. One has to evaluate it step by step. Even if it reports 10/- EPS for each of next four years, VFIN should at least double in price by then.
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    Post by Future123 Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:24 pm

    Director purchased again on 22,23 & 24 June.

    http://cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/4841435211057_949.pdf

    The AGM is tomorrow morning. Does anyone plan to go?
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    Post by GroundedKestrel Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:47 pm

    Not in the country at the moment.

    It would be really great if a good samaritan who went for the AGM would give us a summary on its happenings.

    Thank you in advance!

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    Post by Future123 Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:16 pm

    Don' worry. Nothing much happened. They passed all the resolutions. Spoke briefly to the management and they are very confident about the future progress. DP did not come.
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    Post by GroundedKestrel Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:59 pm

    Future123 wrote:Don' worry. Nothing much happened. They passed all the resolutions. Spoke briefly to the management and they are very confident about the future progress. DP did not come.


    Thank you Future Smile I appreciate it. Rep from me!
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    Post by GroundedKestrel Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:33 pm

    Oh BTW Future.. did they say anything about their expansion strategy?
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    Post by Future123 Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:46 pm

    GroundedKestrel wrote:Oh BTW Future.. did they say anything about their expansion strategy?

    They said the growth will continue in the current year as well. Not mentioned about specific branch openings.

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