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CAL Research - JKH - Sell
Sriranga- Veteran
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sashimaal- Top contributor
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Thanks RB for sharing, +
sashimaal- Top contributor
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Is this for Blackrock to collect?
I agree currently it's on premium. But they seem to be slowly getting out of trouble. As at now, with the current ASI level, I think it can go to a max of Rs 270-280. This includes a liquidity premium.
I agree currently it's on premium. But they seem to be slowly getting out of trouble. As at now, with the current ASI level, I think it can go to a max of Rs 270-280. This includes a liquidity premium.
serene- Top contributor
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Thanks Reds. SELL karanna kiyala kiyanne..
slstock- Veteran
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I salute CAL for being bold enough to call a sell at this bull stage ( rarely people will do that).
But unless there is massive catastrophe ( like news that casino is cancelled in addition to part of their project plans ) or a market crash I don't think JKH will fall to Rs 192 again in near future.
We also see constant collection on JKH by foreign party. So if the bull remain ( seems it would) the chances of JKH going up is higher than falling to 192 in near future.
I am saying this with logic I can see, but CAL may know something I don't . They are a company with lot "heads" and extrenal info. I am me ( 1 person) with no such info.
On fundamental JKH looks overvalued but JKH is JKH.
But unless there is massive catastrophe ( like news that casino is cancelled in addition to part of their project plans ) or a market crash I don't think JKH will fall to Rs 192 again in near future.
We also see constant collection on JKH by foreign party. So if the bull remain ( seems it would) the chances of JKH going up is higher than falling to 192 in near future.
I am saying this with logic I can see, but CAL may know something I don't . They are a company with lot "heads" and extrenal info. I am me ( 1 person) with no such info.
On fundamental JKH looks overvalued but JKH is JKH.
marusira- Posts : 138
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ෆෝරිනර්ස්ලට පිස්සුද කොහෙද 192ක් වටිනා එක 257ට ගන්න 
නැත්තන් කැප්ටන්ට පිස්සුද කොහෙද janus ලාගෙන් 250ට ගන්න
නැත්තන් අපිට පිස්සුද මේ කියන එක(192කේ කතාව )විස්වාස කරන්න
දැන් කාටද පිස්සු?
නැත්තන් කැප්ටන්ට පිස්සුද කොහෙද janus ලාගෙන් 250ට ගන්න
නැත්තන් අපිට පිස්සුද මේ කියන එක(192කේ කතාව )විස්වාස කරන්න
දැන් කාටද පිස්සු?
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marusira wrote:ෆෝරිනර්ස්ලට පිස්සුද කොහෙද 192ක් වටිනා එක 257ට ගන්න
නැත්තන් කැප්ටන්ට පිස්සුද කොහෙද janus ලාගෙන් 250ට ගන්න
නැත්තන් අපිට පිස්සුද මේ කියන එක(192කේ කතාව )විස්වාස කරන්න
දැන් කාටද පිස්සු?
Maru kathawa Marusiya
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hariesha- Top contributor
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CAL's reports are good and accurate.
But not with JKH and LLUB. For both they had sell recommendations for a considerable time now. But both went against them.
But not with JKH and LLUB. For both they had sell recommendations for a considerable time now. But both went against them.
First Guy- Posts : 2599
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Few points/questions
* Recurrent P/E calculation is wrong in the 1st page. It is correct in pg 5 Appendix 3
* Are these WACC numbers justifiable?, just asking.
* Why is recurrent EPS dropping in FY15E ? just because of interest income?
* Interest bearing debt seems lower than reported.
* Why is Equity dropping in FY15E ? Rs. 4 bil drop from 1H15 forecasted
* Recurrent P/E calculation is wrong in the 1st page. It is correct in pg 5 Appendix 3
* Are these WACC numbers justifiable?, just asking.
* Why is recurrent EPS dropping in FY15E ? just because of interest income?
* Interest bearing debt seems lower than reported.
* Why is Equity dropping in FY15E ? Rs. 4 bil drop from 1H15 forecasted
Last edited by First Guy on Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:04 am; edited 1 time in total
Ethical Trader- Top contributor
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May be this "sell" recommendation is due to uncertainity created by election feaver + warrant conversion date nearing?slstock wrote:I salute CAL for being bold enough to call a sell at this bull stage ( rarely people will do that).
But unless there is massive catastrophe ( like news that casino is cancelled in addition to part of their project plans ) or a market crash I don't think JKH will fall to Rs 192 again in near future.
We also see constant collection on JKH by foreign party. So if the bull remain ( seems it would) the chances of JKH going up is higher than falling to 192 in near future.
I am saying this with logic I can see, but CAL may know something I don't . They are a company with lot "heads" and extrenal info. I am me ( 1 person) with no such info.
On fundamental JKH looks overvalued but JKH is JKH.
First Guy- Posts : 2599
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Ethical Trader wrote:May be this "sell" recommendation is due to uncertainity created by election feaver + warrant conversion date nearing?slstock wrote:I salute CAL for being bold enough to call a sell at this bull stage ( rarely people will do that).
But unless there is massive catastrophe ( like news that casino is cancelled in addition to part of their project plans ) or a market crash I don't think JKH will fall to Rs 192 again in near future.
We also see constant collection on JKH by foreign party. So if the bull remain ( seems it would) the chances of JKH going up is higher than falling to 192 in near future.
I am saying this with logic I can see, but CAL may know something I don't . They are a company with lot "heads" and extrenal info. I am me ( 1 person) with no such info.
On fundamental JKH looks overvalued but JKH is JKH.
There is almost an year for the first set of warrants to be converted, isn't it?
Ethical Trader- Top contributor
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First Guy wrote:Ethical Trader wrote:May be this "sell" recommendation is due to uncertainity created by election feaver + warrant conversion date nearing?slstock wrote:I salute CAL for being bold enough to call a sell at this bull stage ( rarely people will do that).
But unless there is massive catastrophe ( like news that casino is cancelled in addition to part of their project plans ) or a market crash I don't think JKH will fall to Rs 192 again in near future.
We also see constant collection on JKH by foreign party. So if the bull remain ( seems it would) the chances of JKH going up is higher than falling to 192 in near future.
I am saying this with logic I can see, but CAL may know something I don't . They are a company with lot "heads" and extrenal info. I am me ( 1 person) with no such info.
On fundamental JKH looks overvalued but JKH is JKH.
There is almost an year for the first set of warrants to be converted, isn't it?
True, but the space available for play narraws each day and also I think this recommendation is not for value investors but for speculaters and short term traders. Actually they should have elaborated on this aspect as each person has a different strategy.
sapumal- Posts : 304
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I am not commenting about the recommendation. But we should respect CALs effort. They constantly express what they believe without considering public opinion.hariesha wrote:CAL's reports are good and accurate.
But not with JKH and LLUB. For both they had sell recommendations for a considerable time now. But both went against them.
sashimaal- Top contributor
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The same person who wrote the report said in Feb 2012 that the IR project has a + Rs 92 on concept value and a + Rs 53 based on volatility upside.
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Yes, situation has changed...but...
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puliyanam- Top contributor
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CAL got a few of its recommendations dead wrong. LLUB was one of them...I think they will be proved wrong on JKH too...
I look at it this way.. We need some sellers to buy JKH....It will probably come from CAL clients.. Some (possibly CAL clients) sold LLUB at 270 levels late last year till march this year thinking it will drop to 215.....well the rest is history
I look at it this way.. We need some sellers to buy JKH....It will probably come from CAL clients.. Some (possibly CAL clients) sold LLUB at 270 levels late last year till march this year thinking it will drop to 215.....well the rest is history
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