Easter Sunday Attack and Sri Lanka

We are still the Islanders... We see the root cause of this Easter Attack is home grown.

We try to finger point at our own politicians ,,, yet this is different.

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Source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7025759/Sri-Lankan-suicide-bomber-radicalised-Anjem-Choudary.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed


Facts

Sri Lankan suicide bomber ‘was radicalised by notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary while in London’

• Abdul Lathief Jameel Mohamed, 37, was the link between Islamic State and the bombers, according to security services
  
•  A security official said Mohamed was 'completely radicalised' and that he attended the sermons of Anjem Choudary
  
• Mohamed tried to blow up the luxury Taj Samudra hotel in the Sri Lankan capital Colombo on Easter Sunday
  

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One of the Sri Lankan suicide bombers was allegedly radicalised by hate preacher Anjem Choudary.
Abdul Lathief Jameel Mohamed, 37, was the link between Islamic State and the bombers, according to security services.
A security official told the BBC: 'He was completely radicalised and supported the extremist ideology. I tried to reason with him.
'When I asked him how he got into this… he said that he attended the sermons of the radical British preacher Anjem Choudary in London. He said he met him during the sermons.'

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Abdul Lathief Jameel Mohamed, 37, was believed to have been radicalised by Anjem Choudary when he stayed in London


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Choudary is considered one of the UK's most notorious hate preachers. 
The father of five spent three years of a five-and-a-half year sentence in prison after he was detained in 2016 under terror laws for his encouragement to Muslims to join Isis.
The Choudary-led extremist group al-Muhajiroun was outlawed by the Government following the 2005 7/7 attacks on London but it has continued to operate under a number of different images.
He helped radicalise some of Britain's most notorious terrorists, including London Bridge terror attacker ringleader Khuram Butt, and Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, who murdered Fusilier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London.

Choudary was released from prison on 19th October 2018. Shortly after his release, it was reported that Choudary would be placed in a probation hostel in London Borough of Camden for six months where he would be required to abide by a number of conditions.

Now some quotes of Anjem Choundary....just to understand the root cause behind the grave evil attacks in SL

slstock wrote:

mymoney wrote:I'm asking from intelligent persons of this forum...,

Now, we as a normal people of this country...,

In what way do we have to contribute...,

To uplift our country and nation again ?

Well let me give you small start ( only a very small one to start).

1) Build Trust:  Each race has to condemn the wrong doing of their race.
 If Muslims support their Kadu and Easter massacre   , Sinhalese or Tamils cannot have trust in them. Likewise if Sinhlase support this stupid riots , Muslims or another race can ask  "you are telling us to clean our religion/people but what about you" ?

When New Zealand attack happened , the country inclduing Prime  Minister showed geneuine regret by even wearing hijabs

Actions and Trust is key.  


2) People should stop pretending there is no problem and ignore it ( or stay silent)
  Wounds don't auto heal. Do something about it.

3) Plan and support for a new system with fresh faces .  Get rid of most of the Parliament ( 99%)  , President and even the next power hungry   old people coming under a new party .

4) If you see a Foreigner on SL Streets talk to them nicely. Tell something about our culture. Tell them something that will stay in their mind when they go back to their own country

How does it help?   Right now many don't know where Sri lanka is even  to care about Sri Lanka or help Sri Lanka or donate.

ex : 2 days ago I talked to this 62 year old westerner. His wife heard about the Easter sunday attack and told him. He said they did not know where Sri Lanka was even and only then he looked at a world Map to tell his wife.

I spent 1 hour with him  to talk about Sri Lanka, history , beauty and diversity. Believe me he know Sri Lanka now and he said he will research the internet more. Am sure he will spread the right picture with his friend now.

How does it help Sri Lanka? HUGELY !  ( think why)




I can write so much more. But will stop.

No further comments, you nailed it SLS. Thank you

This was I wrote a few years back.

And Then We Want The World To Be A Better Place

We all take our kids on our marketing trips.

Put them on a trolley cart and act as we are on a race track.

Hit an old lady from behind in the aisle, then whisk pass cursing her and without even an apology.

Stop near the “ Fruits and Nuts “ section and throw a few of them in your mouth before stuffing a few more in his / her mouth.

Sure enough, the toddler can’t read the notice posted over there.

“ Eating is not allowed ”

But he/she was just happy for the freebies, Papa / Mama has stuffed in his / her mouth.



One day we go to see his / her choir practice session and find him/her standing inconspicuously in the very last row.

What happened?

We ask him/her while heading back home.

Teacher says I am too tall to be in the first row.

Next day the child is sent off to practice with a few cookie jars in a nice reusable bag that we have brought in on our last overseas holiday.

“ Don’t forget to give it only to the teacher’s hand ”.

Pick up time in the evening and when you reached there, the training session is still on.

Amazingly, our tall kid has now found a place in the front row suddenly.

Heading home, he/she was jabbering happily.

The teacher asked where we got those.

I said the USA.

Wow!

Now the kid got a reserved place in the front from there on.

Oh ! what a few foreign cookies can do to someone's self-esteem?



Then comes the time for proper schooling.

We prepare our kids for the most dreaded school admission interview.

So a mock interview was set up at home.

Pretending you are the Principle of the school we ask “Where do you stay”?

The kid is happy to say the only and truthful answer he/she ever know.

But we are happy to interrupt and say “Oh no! don’t say that”

“ Say you are from Thimbirigasyaya ”

The kid protests with pleading eyes “ But I don’t know where is that place ”, " We are from Moratuwa ".

We say “ Don’t worry about it, it is all taken care already and just say Thimbirigasyaya only ".

He nods but utterly confused.



He/she goes to play sports and one day we find him/her sitting on the bench watching others practice.

Now we know the answer to that dilemma.

Next practice session he/she goes with a much heavier bag.

And on the match day, you will see someone else’s kid is on the bench, watching haplessly.

Then we go home and celebrate.

If we stop behaving this way, then the country would be in better shape.
Improvement begins with I.
But unfortunately, no one is ready to bell the cat and waiting for another to do so to enjoy the ensuing benefits.

mymoney wrote:I'm asking from intelligent persons of this forum...,

Now, we as a normal people of this country...,

In what way do we have to contribute...,

To uplift our country and nation again ?

My dear , In LONDON all above mistakes are not done ( lets assume so).. Yet Anjem Choundry in brain-washing others in that Land.

Now compare the movements of Moulvi Saharan with Anjem Choundry...

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1. Sharpening
Choudary embraced Islamism and, with the Islamist militant leader Omar Bakri Muhammed, co-founded al-Muhajiroun,^[15] a Salafi Wahabi organisation.^[25] The two men had met at a local mosque, where Bakri was giving a tafsir (an interpretation of the Qur'an).^[26] In 2002, following a bazaar organised by al-Muhajiroun (advertised by leaflet and word of mouth), Choudary gave a talk on education at Slough. His lecture outlined his ideas for a parallel system of Islamic education in the UK and included elements of the group's ideology.

While staying in LONDON , the brainwashed students carry out operations else where.


2. Organizing

In 2003 or 2004 he organised an Islamic-themed camping trip, at which Bakri lectured, on the 54-acre (220,000 m²) grounds of the Jameah Islamiyah School in East Sussex..

Large lands and training schools.

There are many such preachers.

Once in  a discussion which you may be able to watch in Youtube

Sharuk Khan says " I am a moderate Muslim. I don't wear cap or beard"..

Dr. Shakir Naiq ( of Now prohibited Peace TV) said " There are no moderate Muslims. Either you are a practicing Muslim or Non-muslim"

This is the problem? How do you protect average moderate innocent Muslim. We need more of Sharuk Khans...






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Have you ever met a preacher who says Be Moderate..?  Remember none of these graphics are created by anyone in SL..












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Despite all these ( I wrote in detail with graphics pasted from elsewhere to show the root of the problem is not lying in SL soil but in a book) , now what SLS and Kith said is valid.

We have to protect the Sharuk Khans of this land. We have to be careful of possible brainwashed siblings coming from elsewhere. Even Moulvi Saharan was brainwashed elsewhere.

Now SL citizens have a duty.

Dont blame your politicians now... They are incapable. Yet the cause is not them.


Don't create racist statements and at the same time be bold to say the truth.

I remained silent on this issue yet wrote what I have to ....

Do what SLS and Kith has proposed to do. That is valid. Yet never hide the reality. Say it loud without hurting the moderate.

it's all true. but we all are going in the direction the big players want us to go. equipping of radical groups in order to fulfill political objectives is not new. it has been discussed by long ago by Chanakya- India, Plato- Greece.

good reads. Thanks for sharing

Thanks SLS and YK for taking us to unknown territory yet we must have some idea about.

I do not think that there is an option for Moderates to exist in that teaching.
That is why the elimination of infidels are considered a duty of the faithful.
Blasphemy, Fatwa are the avenues to get there.

For reference:

https://graphics.reuters.com/SRI%20LANKA-BLASTS-PLOTTER/010091W52YP/index.html

ri Lanka attacks
A network of extremism expands
A new link has emerged in the network behind the Easter Sunday bombings which killed over 250 people in Sri Lanka.
PUBLISHED MAY 14, 2019

Aadhil, who described himself on his LinkedIn profile as a senior engineer/programmer/web designer with a masters degree in computer science and a bachelors in political science from U.K. universities, could not be reached for comment.

Indian connection

The Indian investigators said they had been monitoring Aadhil since 2016 and named him in two chargesheets filed in Indian courts against suspected Islamic State operatives as being one of their contacts.

Senanayake said that the bombs used in the April 21 attacks were most likely manufactured locally, while some bomb-making material was also probably acquired from Tamil Nadu.

All dark clouds have sliver linings.

Imam Tawhidi is an Iranian-born Iraqi scholar of Islam. He is one of a select few Muslims today who are publicly calling out for the Islamic world to reform with the times, as this meme of his so succinctly states.




https://www.israelvideonetwork.com/meet-the-peaceful-imam-calling-out-the-extremism-in-islam-social-media-does-not-like-him/

SLS, your rare appearance may have prompted many to visit the forum. Just to pickup valuable investment advice etc. from you.

සැමටම සමාන නීතියක්..............

ruwan326 wrote:සැමටම සමාන නීතියක්..............

Yes, most of what is said here is true. All citizens should live by a common law of the Country. That how impartial countries with equal law to all citizens  progress.  



ps : 
Ruwan, as you are into Buddhism,  what is your perspective on  this Monk overall ? (  Just  asking  out of curiosity . We know he is controversial at times so am asking). 

Btw I recognize his idea is good here and what is saying mostly is right here.

Ethical Trader wrote:SLS, your rare appearance may have prompted many to visit the forum. Just to pickup valuable investment advice etc. from you.  

Well I am sure everyone ( including myself) will be better  at preaching  more than executing it ideally himself.  ( Wedamahaththaya can often treat others ailments , but when it personal  its much harder) 

But on the other hand , I guess , if your Father is a smoker and says "Child don't smoke "  it carries much more weight. 

Some may look at it negatively . But on the other hand  , he might be ideal personal as he knows the experience , knows the issues and is trying to Save someone not getting into the same mess right? 

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Btw,  if people just try to show up to read and disappear isn't it the problem ? 
Waiting for another to do something, or taking ( not giving)  is norm in Sri Lanka. 


Instead of spending all this time for a  personal interest  ( maybe to promote my shares or interests for example),  maybe I am mistaken to worry about issues of the Country and things that effect  majority of people. ( which includes CSE) 

Seems few of us are the idiots. 


Even on a major  national concern, there are only less than 10 people who participated  with even a simple idea.

90% other stay silent or participate if it in their personal interests only. 


ps : Wish some of our Muslim brothers/sisters here ( I know there are quite few of them here) answered /  commented on the discussion to add more depth.  Not even one commented . Sad 

Wish Sinhalese  and Tamil brothers/sisters tried to add wisdom and promoted peace here. 

Nope.  All are the same . Read and dissapear.   
We have one common Sri Lankan trait . Race or Religion doesn't matter.

SLS,

"My perspective on  this Monk overall" ?

99.9% Sri Lankan monks/Buddhists only put a Buddhist label and act, they never understand what is enlightenment yet like parrots and history teachers blabber and describe enlightenment/enlighten people .

Few years back this monk openly said that enlightenment can be achieved in this life and start preaching not from a book, from what he achieved. If you listen to his preaching's you can bring your thought in to middle and ease your suffering and tame your thoughts little bit.

I did biology for A/L but couldn't went to a university and become a doctor. Unless I become a doctor I can't judge another doctor. So I am not in a position to tell this monk is enlighten or not and I don't have a meter to check also. 2009 his preaching's opened my eyes and helped me to tame my thoughts + understand that Buddhism is just another man made religion just like other 4199 religions in the world and what Buddha said is something else.

Now I do not maintain a religion/cast/creed/nationality etc...... I live like a free bird everyday after seeing the truth of this world and my purpose.

Ruwan 


Couple of things 


1) I think Buddhism is more of a way of life than a religion. 

2) Yes every good or bad person has vice versa. So it is okay to take the good things out of them. So I understand what you are saying.  We just need to support the good and stand against the wrong isn't it ? 

I'll tell you something I wanted to say at a suitable time.  Time is now. 

I saw you commenting and also promoting Shark forum  many times at SLEF (  you were not here at that time).  I don't know whether you write at Shark or not anymore as I stopped reading anything there since an event.  I know you don't write at SLEF now. I guess life taught you some lessons too. 

You see, after meeting 1000s and 1000s of people and communicating with 100s  over the years ( who sometimes scratched my back when they needed to and back stabbed when I said something not to their needs or wanted to break away) , I take careful approach to not welcome and commend people just on impulse. I commend them only on merit. When  I commend, commend well.  

So I say this now. I see a lot of good thinking in you. I see in you a person who can stand for the right , do good for the country  and not get brain washed  by "the  bogus". 

My request to you is carry on the good stuff you do. But as a Brother , I say , only to associate a limited amount of people than having alliances with many people/ places.  Why?  Former will bring you credibility , latter will bring you fame but ( not exactly credibility). 

I hope you see deeper what I said. I appreciate the good you have done here and sometimes standing for the right. Well done . Keep it up. 


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To all 

1) Every original religion has break aways who  follows  different beliefs and lifestyle depending on their beliefs ( or at times needs). 

Buddhist believe Therawada is pure. But there is Mahayana and Vajrayana. Catholics say that their version is  the pure version but there are many Christian sects with different  belief all following Christ.  Islam has several schools of thought.  


Bahai ( faith/religion)  kind of pools all religions together.

Point is depending on our need,  we all can follow what we want. Extremist of each religion justifies their acts and still call themselves Buddhists , Catholics/Christians and Muslims. But reality maybe different. 

It okay to follow your belief or any religion you want. But there is only one universal right  ( or wrong) . Some might say , what is right to me  is wrong to you. Yes. 

But conscious  says what is right and wrong. We may yet go against our conscious and go what the brain tell us to do. 

Follow your conscious and your heart. It will find you the longer term peace you need.  


( Ruwan this is nothing to do with anything you said but just expanding on some thought for common good )

SLS,
Thank you so much for the time you spend for writing/advice's/wisdom you shared.When ever I see your recent posts or older one you give away more than 100% for free and we can learn so much and benefit from it.I am still 41 and hope to become a legend like you in here for next 10-20 years and carry out the great job you guys are doing now.


It's a waste of time if I say anything about SLEF,about SHARK's forum, There are few good analysis there and I just update few of my regular reports & posts."They say don't watch only CNN, try BBC too"


since the topic is about- Easter Sunday Attack and Sri Lanka ,I will put 3 thoughts to prevent attacks like this in the future.........

ඔබට කුඩා දරුවන් දෙදෙනෙකු සිටිනවා, එක් දරුවෙකුට මුලසිටම "සුදුවර්ණය" සුදු ලෙසත් අනෙක් දරුවාට "සුදුවර්ණය" කළු ලෙසත් උගන්වනවා. දිනක් දරුවන් දෙදෙනා සෙල්ලම් කරමින් සිටිනවිට සුදු පැහැ සමනළයෙක් ඔවුන්ට පේනවා. එක් ළමයෙක් සුදුපාට සමනලයෙක් කියද්දී අනෙකා කළුපාට සමනලයෙක් කියනවා ,මෙසේ වාද කරන ඔවුන් පසුව තම මතය වෙනුවෙන් ගහමරා ගන්නවා. හැබැයි අර සමනලයාට උගේ පාට පිළිබඳව කිසි ප්‍රශ්නයක් නැතුව නිදහසේ ඉගිලෙනවා.

දරුවන් දෙදෙනාගෙන් හරි කවුද වැරදි කවුද කියලා අපිට හරියටම කියන්න බැහැ. ඒ මන්ද යත් ලෝකයේ මුලින්ම වර්ණ වලට නම් දුන්න කෙනා සුදු පාටට කළු කිවුවනම් අපි අද කළු කියන්නේ සුදු වලට. මේ වර්ණ වගේම තමයි ජාතිය/ආගම/දේශපාලනය පක්ෂය ඇතුළු ලෝකයේ පවතින සෑම දෙයක්ම, කවුරු හරි දුන්න නමකට අපි වටිනාකම් දීලා අන්තවාදීන් වෙනවා.    

මේ ලෝකයේ සියල්ලක්ම සිදුවන්නේ ද්විතාවය(Duality) මත, ඒ නියායට අනුව මිනිසුන් කොටස් 2ක් සිටිනවා. මිනිස් සිරුරක් දරාගත් නොමිනුසුන් සහ සබැ මනුෂ්‍යත්යවය ඇති මිනිසුන් ලෙස.ඒ මිනිසත්වයේ  උපරිමයට ඔබ රැගෙන යාමට ලොව ශ්‍රේෂ්ඨතම විද්‍යාඥයා වූ බුදුන් වහන්සේ මාර්ගයක් පෙන්නුවා.

1- ඔබ ඕනෑම දෙයක් පිළිගැනීමට පෙර කලාම සුත්‍රයේ පරිදි ක්‍රම 10ට නොවැටී තමන් විසින් මනාව සත්‍ය දැක අනුගමනය කර බලන්න. එවිට ඔබට  අන්තගාමීයෙක්‌ නොවී මධ්‍යස්ත මතධාරියෙක් වෙන්න පුළුවන්(පෙර සඳහන් සමනලයා/වර්ණ උදාහරණය).  

2- අන් අය පිලිබඳව ඕනෑම දෙයක් සිතීමට/කීමට/කිරීමට පෙර ඒවා තමන්ටම ආදේශ කර බලන්න.තමන්ට අහිතකර නම් ඒවා සිතීම/කීම/කිරීම නොකරන්න.

3- ලෝකයා ඔබව මේ තාක් අතීතය හා අනාගතය අතර නොනවතින ගමනකට යොමුකොට හමාරයි. ඔබ වර්ථමානයේ සතුටින් ජිවත් වනවා වෙනුවට අතීතය හා අනාගතය වෙනුවෙන් වහල්කම් කිරීම නැවතීමට අවශ්‍ය බව ඔබේ සිතට දන්වන්න. මදකට ඔබේ සිතෙන් අතීත හා අනාගත දත්ත නොමැතිව  "මේ දැන් මම කවුද "  කියන ප්‍රශ්නයට පිළිතුරක් විමසීමෙන් ,ලෝකයා ඔබව මේ තාක් අතීතය හා අනාගතය අතර නොනවතින ගමනකට යොමුකොට හමාර බව වටහාගන්න.

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ඔබ තවමත් වර්ණ පිළිබඳව මා මුලින් කි දෙය ගැන එකඟ නොමැතිනම් මේ වීඩියෝව බලන්න. ලෝකයා දකින මිත්‍යාව සහ විශ්ව සත්‍ය අතර වෙනස මෙයයි

Thanks Ruwan,

Your contribution to the forum is highly appreciated and we are looking forward to see your dream coming true soon.  May you be a great character like SLS

I am still 41 and hope to become a legend like you in here for next 10-20 years and carry out the great job you guys are doing now.

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Ruwan, can you kindly explain about this Kalama Sutra...I have not studied about it .. What are these 10 methods?

1- ඔබ ඕනෑම දෙයක් පිළිගැනීමට පෙර කලාම සුත්‍රයේ පරිදි ක්‍රම 10ට නොවැටී තමන් විසින් මනාව සත්‍ය දැක අනුගමනය කර බලන්න. එවිට ඔබට  අන්තගාමීයෙක්‌ නොවී මධ්‍යස්ත මතධාරියෙක් වෙන්න පුළුවන්(පෙර සඳහන් සමනලයා/වර්ණ උදාහරණය). 

yellow knife wrote:Thanks Ruwan,

Your contribution to the forum is highly appreciated and we are looking forward to see your dream coming true soon.  May you be a great character like SLS

I am still 41 and hope to become a legend like you in here for next 10-20 years and carry out the great job you guys are doing now.

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Ruwan, can you kindly explain about this Kalama Sutra...I have not studied about it .. What are these 10 methods?

1- ඔබ ඕනෑම දෙයක් පිළිගැනීමට පෙර කලාම සුත්‍රයේ පරිදි ක්‍රම 10ට නොවැටී තමන් විසින් මනාව සත්‍ය දැක අනුගමනය කර බලන්න. එවිට ඔබට  අන්තගාමීයෙක්‌ නොවී මධ්‍යස්ත මතධාරියෙක් වෙන්න පුළුවන්(පෙර සඳහන් සමනලයා/වර්ණ උදාහරණය). 

1. ඇසූ පමණින් නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
2. පාරම්පරික විශ්වාසය අනුව ද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
3. පෙර මෙසේ කියා ඇතැයි නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
4. පොත පතේ ඇති නිසාද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
5. තර්කයට ගැලපේ යෑයි ද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
6. න්‍යායට ගැලපේ යෑයි ද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
7. කල්පනාවට අනුරූප යයිද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
8. දෘෂ්ටියට ගැලපේ යෑයි ද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
9. හොඳ බව පෙනේ යෑයි ද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.
10. අපගේ ආචාර්යවරයා මෙසේ කියා ඇතැයි ද නොපිළිගත යුතුය.

මේ ක්‍රම 10න්ම බිහිවන්නේ අන්තවාදීන් පමණි. නිදහස් මධ්‍යස්ත මනසක් හිමි උතුම් මිනිසෙක් වීමට නම් මිනිසා මවාගත් සංකල්ප විනිවිද විශ්ව සත්‍ය දැකිය යුතුයි.

yellow knife wrote:
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Just about to explain
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Then only noticed the "l" in the name.

"Time to stand up for the right and look down upon wrong doers
( irrespective of race and religion) "
- SLS @ LI

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That Saharan guy must have read the above and taken action to honor it.

Not only he stood up for the right he perceived and looked down upon wrong believers, but also blue himself up.

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What do you say of your apparent follower SLS bro?

ruwan326 wrote:
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+ඒ මිනිසත්වයේ  උපරිමයට ඔබ රැගෙන යාමට ලොව ශ්‍රේෂ්ඨතම විද්‍යාඥයා වූ බුදුන් වහන්සේ මාර්ගයක් පෙන්නුවා.
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Ruwan Bro,

Have a question for you.

Now, the Buddha is said to have shown the ultimate solution to escape from the trap of this 'world'.
Agreed?

Then,
they say, there have been vast number of Buddhas had existed in the past.

And, they have shown path to vast number of beings to escape.

But then,
Still there are unnumbered beings trapped in the world.

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So, taken as a whole,
if regardless of those vase number of Buddhas having existed, still there is no reduction of total beings trapped, then we have to conclude that Buddhas' teaching, as a whole, is not effective at all.

Then, we can suspect.
Buddha is just another mechanism created for the existence of the world.

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Just like, creation of 'Neo' in the movie 'Matrix' to continue the existence of matrix.