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Post by slstock on Mon May 13, 2019 11:20 am

This tragedy has shaken my ( our) core.  

If in retaliation of New Zealand attack, Why Sri Lanka out of all countries?
Only 10% Christians. ( I am not Christian)

Who is behind this really? Who supported it ?   What the real intent ?

Why a guy who is rich and has 2 degrees blow himself to bits
killing so many innocent ?
People want money. They want education. He had both.
But .. now he is dust taking along others with him.

I see bigger issues here.



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Humans tend to act  only  if it  affects us usually.
Else we don't care or stay silent.  Share market or life, the same.

Life is bigger.  Someone else sorrow/ plight  today might be
the same fate for us tomorrow!  

We have to go when we have to go.  Yes.
But do good and  lets have a backbone to stand up for the wrong
( our pain or not) so we will leave the world someday with
a positive mark/memory.

I think I need to repeat what I said all my life at forums.

Time to stand up for the right and look down upon wrong doers
( irrespective of race and religion)



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Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims , Burghers stand against  
Extremists and  be united.

SRI LANKA HAS GIVEN RELIGIOUS FREEDOM TO ALL ( BUDDHISTS, HINDUS , MUSLIMS , CHRISTIANS/CATHOLICS ) than many other countries.

Tell me  8 other countries like  Sri Lanka in that regard.
Tell me if you can.


Value it people. Don't abuse it whatever religion you are.
Stand against wrong doers of your religion to your  protect country
as one ( and that goes to CSE too ) . Don't shoot your foot



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STOP DEFENDING WRONG DOERS, SPREADING  HATRED AGAINST OTHERS , KEEPING  WEAPONS TO FIGHT FELLOW COUNTRYMEN etc etc. DON'T MAKE MATTERS WORSE. USE YOUR BRAINS NOT EMOTIONS.  UNITE FOR THE COUNTRY TO DRIVE OFF THE UNCOUTH TO RETURN THE PARADISE SRI LANKA ONCE WAS.  


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Post by yellow knife on Mon May 13, 2019 11:44 am

SLS you are the one who posted about Easter Day Attacks clearly for the very first time in this forum.

I wanted to write. Yet I kept silent. In a way I am pleased with the way this forum behaved. No gossips, no hidden words, and no arguments at all on this Bomb issue.

You are right SLS,

Someone should speak up with genuine reasons without any ultra motive.

I sensed many ... yet I kept thinking myself.

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Post by hammurabi on Mon May 13, 2019 12:22 pm

100% correct SLS. There are many developed nations being bombed atleast twice a year. Yet they move on without any struggle. People are so positive. But our people are very Dramatic, they create trouble over trouble, rumours, myths spreading with the air. Everyone seems to know politics more than politicians, economics more than economists, religion almost all religions more than clerics, history more than historians lol! They expect change but they are not willing to change. We have more keyboard worriors much more than china. They funny thing is they think themselves as patriots. There is no shortage in education. what we lack is attitude
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Post by slstock on Mon May 13, 2019 1:32 pm



Fight with me about shares.
Fight with me about your strategy.
Fight with me when I stand up for what is right to protect interests of many /Country/CSE  ( but not a few)

But when your Country is in a mess ,
80 view for the post in short time but  2 inputs only so far.
 
How about some comments from those  who fight for everything else?  
What about you living in Sri Lanka facing the music ?
Will silence or violence solve anything?
( Do you know that's extremism too )  
How about some ideas / inputs ?




Humans tend to act  only  if it  affects us usually.
Else we don't care or stay silent.  
Share market or life, the same.
All we have is a proud history to harp on. No future

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Post by Ethical Trader on Mon May 13, 2019 2:13 pm

Thanks for raising this issue.

I was silent all the way, because I did not want to disturb the attempts by the government by presenting my two cents worth. They were doing a good job of work though belatedly.

I appreciate the responsible behavior of religious leaders (especially Catholic & Cristian) after this tragedy.

My answer to your question why Sri Lanka was selected to attack is that they may have sensed this place is easier to attack with relaxed security and divided responsibility between the President and the PM.

And my answer to your question why well educated and wealthy youth sacrificed their life in this event is that they may have been brain washed in the name of their religion where they were made to believe such acts would send them to heaven straight away.
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Post by slstock on Mon May 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Ethical Trader wrote:
I was silent all the way, because I did not want to disturb the attempts by the government by presenting my two cents worth. They were doing a good job of work though belatedly.

Who is Government ?  President is going to be in China with 27 people presently.

Are forces doing a good job? Yes I agree.


Ethical Trader wrote:
I appreciate the responsible behavior of religious leaders (especially Catholic & Cristian) after this tragedy.

Agree.


Ethical Trader wrote:
And my answer to your question why well educated and wealthy youth sacrificed their life in this event is that they may have been brain washed in the name of their religion where they were made to believe such acts would send them to heaven straight away.



To see 72 virgins ?  Islamism  doesn't say that to my knowledge.

How about an Islam follower here clarify on the issue.
You can help to spread right information  about Islamism this way


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Post by Ethical Trader on Mon May 13, 2019 2:32 pm

By the word "Government" I meant the bureaucracy including the three forces & the Police. Not any worthless politicians who utter lies after lies.
slstock wrote:
Ethical Trader wrote:
I was silent all the way, because I did not want to disturb the attempts by the government by presenting my two cents worth. They were doing a good job of work though belatedly.

Who is government?  President is in China with 27 people.

Are forces doing a good job? Yes I agree.


Ethical Trader wrote:
I appreciate the responsible behavior of religious leaders (especially Catholic & Cristian) after this tragedy.

Agree.


Ethical Trader wrote:
And my answer to your question why well educated and wealthy youth sacrificed their life in this event is that they may have been brain washed in the name of their religion where they were made to believe such acts would send them to heaven straight away.



To see 72 virgins ?  Islamism  doesn't say that to my knowledge.

How about an Islam follower here clarify on the issue.
You can help to spread peace this way  
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Post by Ethical Trader on Mon May 13, 2019 2:34 pm

Another reason for selecting Sri Lanka may have been our close military relationship with the USA.
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Post by ruwan326 on Mon May 13, 2019 3:08 pm

Time has come to send  these useless 225 MP's + president & political parties to garbage bin.For last 71 years these politicians push this country towards stone age, all the systems were corrupted and only create inhumans.

Even politicians knew what's going to happen to them and they bought back the only option of terrorism again.This nation used to be a great one and Europeans took every thing from us and made us slaves, and they are always watching and make sure we stay as slaves forever.(I put a post "USA vs China: High Tension - Saturday, May 11, 2019. US Military News Update"in Things we are not aware of-Sri Lanka politics)

2020 everything going to be change, every thing happening in the county now clearly shows that there will be a great change soon. Till then lets spread good vibes and bring out the best human qualities in us.
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If you become a suicide bomber means you never value your life first and no need to talk about other peoples lives then. From the moment you born to this world our society inject Race/cast/religion and many other labels to you and your whole life you will waste your time by maintain those.

Media/Politicians/Clergy suppose to build great nations in the world, yet in Sri Lanka these 3 parties only care about them selves and their needs. Buddha/Jesus/Muhammad and all the other leaders showed you a clear path,but later on some cunning selfish people from each religion wrote books and put their agendas for us to follow as a religion.
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Post by xmart on Mon May 13, 2019 3:16 pm

To see 72 virgins ?  Islamism  doesn't say that to my knowledge.

The number 72 itself comes from the hadith - the sayings of Muhammad, which hold a lesser authority than the Qur’an (which is supposedly the direct word of Allah):
Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' " (Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 39)

ref: https://www.quora.com/Can-someone-elaborate-on-the-Qurans-mention-of-houris-72-virgins-Does-the-Quran-say-this-or-is-it-a-misconception-of-a-mistranslated-verse-s

therefore, i'm afraid The story about the Houris can be found in both Qur’an and the Hadith, with the latter adding the detail of the number of Houris you get as a dweller of paradise.

i my viewpoint, number of virgin is not the motive behind the attack. clear pattern of geopolitical power struggle can be seeing with the events unfolded after the attack. beside, more importantly, this small terror group may have links to much larger terror group, but ultimately they are link to fulfill much higher purpose of higher political power.
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Post by slstock on Mon May 13, 2019 3:33 pm



Reg 72 Virgins :

From what I understand yes,  Quran speaks of “Houris”,   gazelle-eyed individuals with intensely black and white  eyes , a  concept of the perfect female individual.  

But some call them virgins but the Quran doesn’t seem suggest such ( to my knowledge)

They’re mentioned in 4 places  directly:

44:54 "Thus. And We will marry them to fair women with large, beautiful eyes"

52:20 "They will be reclining on thrones lined up, and We will marry them to fair women with large,beautiful eyes"

55:72 "Fair ones reserved in pavilions",

56:22 "And [for them are] fair women with large, beautiful eyes"


No number of 72 or the word “virgin” is mentioned  as far as I understand in quran.  


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Yes these 72 virgin theory comes from Hadith.


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Post by spw19721 on Mon May 13, 2019 11:03 pm

Thanks for bumping up this matter sir.....

MY3 goes to china with 27 men while
extremists trying to see 72 virgins.what a coincidence ....


LTTE had a common purpose for killings and attacks . But what about this ? How can we face such devils who blow up their own children with them ? Day by day science & technology is developing but still whole world cant beat this kind of terrorism.why is that ? A person who has air craft engineering degree is believing in fairy tales of 72 virgins .So these types of mentalities cant cured by modern education or techniques.

Though we are polite ,kind ,gentle from the surface , there is a beast who thirst for blood,violence is living beneath it.  we try to hide the beast while living in the society ,but when the opportunity comes beast arise . Look how many applicants has been applied for the post of HANGMAN ? Some degree holders too.Are they so desperate to find a job? Nope. A chance to unleash the beast. Thats it. Islamic extremist lecturers show a path for unleash that beast with some religious wrapping .
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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Tue May 14, 2019 7:48 am

So, even the book is Colour Biased ? Rolling Eyes
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Reg 72 Virgins :

From what I understand yes,  Quran speaks of “Houris”,   gazelle-eyed individuals with intensely black and white  eyes , a  concept of the perfect female individual.  

But some call them virgins but the Quran doesn’t seem suggest such ( to my knowledge)

They’re mentioned in 4 places  directly:

44:54 "Thus. And We will marry them to fair women with large, beautiful eyes"

52:20 "They will be reclining on thrones lined up, and We will marry them to fair women with large,beautiful eyes"

55:72 "Fair ones reserved in pavilions",

56:22 "And [for them are] fair women with large, beautiful eyes"


No  number of 72 or the word “virgin” is mentioned  as far as I understand in quran.  


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Yes these 72 virgin theory comes from Hadith.


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Post by yellow knife on Tue May 14, 2019 8:04 am

Fairy and Lovely was invented later.

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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Tue May 14, 2019 8:24 am

Adulteration is a real possibility but sadly many reluctant to accept it in today's society.
yellow knife wrote:Fairy and Lovely was invented later.

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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Tue May 14, 2019 8:29 am

Do they need a reason for destruction?
I do not think so.

Ethical Trader wrote:Another reason for selecting Sri Lanka may have been our close military relationship with the USA.

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Post by yellow knife on Tue May 14, 2019 8:39 am

Now I too read about 72


houri
/ˈhʊəri/
noun
plural noun: houris
a beautiful young woman, especially one of the virgin companions of the faithful in the Muslim Paradise

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When I want to learn something new , I used google images.

This is another art surprisingly capturing Sigiriya to Houris

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Post by slstock on Tue May 14, 2019 9:33 am

ruwan326 wrote:

Media/Politicians/Clergy suppose to build great nations in the world, yet in Sri Lanka these 3 parties only care about them selves and their needs. Buddha/Jesus/Muhammad and all the other leaders showed you a clear path,but later on some cunning selfish people from each religion wrote books and put their agendas for us to follow as a religion.

Correct.

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Post by slstock on Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 am

spw19721 wrote:Thanks for bumping up this matter sir.....

MY3 goes to china with 27 men while
extremists trying to see 72 virgins.what a coincidence ....


LTTE had a common purpose for killings and attacks . But what about this ? How can we face such devils who blow up their own children with them ? Day by day science & technology is developing but still whole world cant beat this kind of terrorism.why is that ? A person who has air craft engineering degree is believing in fairy tales of 72 virgins .So these types of mentalities cant cured by modern education or techniques.

Though we are polite ,kind ,gentle from the surface , there is a beast who thirst for blood,violence is living beneath it.  we try to hide the beast while living in the society ,but when the opportunity comes beast arise . Look how many applicants has been applied for the post of HANGMAN ? Some degree holders too.Are they so desperate to find a job? Nope. A chance to unleash the beast. Thats it. Islamic extremist lecturers show a path for unleash that beast with some religious wrapping .


Yes. One of the worst things to happen to earth is the creation of Humans. There is no breed that is more descructive , selfish, cunning and greedy than human.


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Side question : Why do you think the CSE Market crashing like this ? Any real issue with the shares which is going down?

Today so far 0.79% down in less than 1 hour.

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Post by serene on Tue May 14, 2019 10:33 am

slstock wrote:

Side question : Why do you think the CSE Market crashing like this ? Any real issue with the shares which is going down?

Today so far 0.79% down in less than 1 hour.

The failure of the government to restore  confidence after the Attack (which is exacerbated due to the fact that Curfew had been imposed  again after few quite days ),

Below far results of the Bottom line of the banks and other ( HNB , MGT ) due to taxes and NPL ( In fact Top line is better But who cares)

+ the Panic selling.

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Post by slstock on Tue May 14, 2019 11:08 am

serene wrote:
slstock wrote:

Side question : Why do you think the CSE Market crashing like this ? Any real issue with the shares which is going down?

Today so far 0.79% down in less than 1 hour.

The failure of the government to restore  confidence after the Attack (which is exacerbated due to the fact that Curfew had been imposed  again after few quite days ),

Below far results of the Bottom line of the banks and other ( HNB , MGT ) due to taxes and NPL ( In fact Top line is better But who cares)

+ the Panic selling.

Well, that part answers the situation from the surface.

But one has to look deeply where the real issue is.

I started this thread for reason. Look how many people even commented on a
national issue and how many evaded it.


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Post by mymoney on Tue May 14, 2019 11:11 am

I'm asking from intelligent persons of this forum...,

Now, we as a normal people of this country...,

In what way do we have to contribute...,

To uplift our country and nation again ?

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Post by CK on Tue May 14, 2019 11:41 am

mymoney wrote:I'm asking from intelligent persons of this forum...,

Now, we as a normal people of this country...,

In what way do we have to contribute...,

To uplift our country and nation again ?
fight against racism in every possible way... if you are a sinhala, fight against sinhala extremist, if you are muslim, fight against muslim extremists and so on.....
Never promote racist posts even in fb or any other social media..
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Post by slstock on Tue May 14, 2019 12:32 pm

mymoney wrote:I'm asking from intelligent persons of this forum...,

Now, we as a normal people of this country...,

In what way do we have to contribute...,

To uplift our country and nation again ?


Well let me give you small start ( only a very small one to start).

1) Build Trust: Each race has to condemn the wrong doing of their race.
If Muslims support their Kadu and Easter massacre , Sinhalese or Tamils cannot have trust in them. Likewise if Sinhlase support this stupid riots , Muslims or another race can ask "you are telling us to clean our religion/people but what about you" ?

When New Zealand attack happened , the country inclduing Prime Minister showed geneuine regret by even wearing hijabs

Actions and Trust is key.


2) People should stop pretending there is no problem and ignore it ( or stay silent)
Wounds don't auto heal. Do something about it.

3) Plan and support for a new system with fresh faces . Get rid of most of the Parliament ( 99%) , President and even the next power hungry old people coming under a new party .

4) If you see a Foreigner on SL Streets talk to them nicely. Tell something about our culture. Tell them something that will stay in their mind when they go back to their own country

How does it help? Right now many don't know where Sri lanka is even to care about Sri Lanka or help Sri Lanka or donate.

ex : 2 days ago I talked to this 62 year old westerner. His wife heard about the Easter sunday attack and told him. He said they did not know where Sri Lanka was even and only then he looked at a world Map to tell his wife.

I spent 1 hour with him to talk about Sri Lanka, history , beauty and diversity. Believe me he know Sri Lanka now and he said he will research the internet more. Am sure he will spread the right picture with his friend now.

How does it help Sri Lanka? HUGELY ! ( think why)




I can write so much more. But will stop.

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