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» What is Known as Dementia?
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» THE LANKA HOSPITALS CORPORATION PLC (LHCL.N0000)
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» COMB.N0000 (Commercial Bank of Ceylon PLC)
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» RICH.N0000 (Richard Pieris and Company PLC)
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» What a Bank Run ?
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» AHPL.N0000
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» TJL.N0000 (Tee Jey Lanka PLC.)
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» Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency
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» Bakery Products ?
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» NTB.N0000 (Nations Trust Bank PLC)
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    Will YOU VOTE for ME if I run for SL PRESIDENCY?

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    Post by slstock Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:25 pm

    spw19721 wrote:Definitely count me in sir....we will vote you.

    But... There is not much time left. 2020 is a tough target. But good start. May be 2025 can be achieved .

    First of all Lets buy a media company to carry your message to the public...It is mandatory.


    Was thinking about you SPW as you were not active here for a while. Good to see you. Btw, buying a media company sounds indeed a good idea . But issues like this ( where money is needed to be thrown around to campaign) is where people like me will have bottlenecks.


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    Post by ruwan326 Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:28 pm

    slstock wrote:
    spw19721 wrote:Definitely count me in sir....we will vote you.

    But... There is not much time left. 2020 is a tough target. But good start. May be 2025 can be achieved .

    First of all Lets buy a media company to carry your message to the public...It is mandatory.


    Was thinking about you  SPW  as you were not active here for a while. Good to see you. Btw, buying a media company sounds indeed a good idea . But issues like this ( where money is needed to be thrown around to campaign)  is where people like me will have bottlenecks.



    If you organize and put all your effort we have more than enough time till 2020 Very Happy

    Social media is far better than Mass media, these days majority choose social media Wink

    SLS you need to be 100% sure about your decision and no time to waste if you are in bounce

    The issue we have on PM is a great window for you....By now many people realize that politicians don't give a Horse shit about people and they only care about power. Basketball

    So if you are in for 2020 I will give my full support. king king king

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    Post by Ethical Trader Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:48 pm

    Dear SLS,
    your question whether I want my list of qualifications to be the future "truth" also depends on the ground situation in the future.

    If
    (a) our parliamentarians vote for MR as PM when they meet on the 16th of November,
    (b) the people in Sri Lanka also approve the current changes (which are questionable) at the next elections,
    (c) thereafter the MR government and the crowd reverse all legal proceedings against them and start robbing the country again

    ?can we expect a future where independent ethical professionals and leaders (sans ill gotten bounties) be able to contest & win Presidential elections without the backing of corrupt main parties The answer is no.

    All your good intentions to take the country in the right path and our backing for your independent candidacy will be in wain.

    In such a situation I have two options-

    (a) abstain from voting or show my displeasure by cancelling my vote with nasty remarks on the ballet paper, or

    (b) give a protest vote to a person like you (again to show my displeasure about the corrupt system knowing very well that you are unable to win under this corrupt system.)

    Irrespective of my choice the "system" will prosper. Hence, your initial question whether I would vote for you is irrelevant.

    That is why I said no at the very start. Its is not because I do not like you or your yeoman service to the society. In my opinion, you are the very best candidate for the Presidency if these corrupt systems do not sit on your way to Presidency.

    My way of thinking prompts me to deal with the main corrupt political systems first prior to contesting the elections.
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    Post by Ethical Trader Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:25 am

    Kith, Ranil did not make any mistake as per my understanding of the events then. He struck a deal with MR for his own survival. Both MR & Ranil benefited in the end.

    Immediately after the Presidential election, Ranil had a secret meeting at odd hours with MR where they agreed to-

    a) soft peddle most corruption cases against MR & family,
    b) immediate withdrawal by MR & hand over power to Ranil,
    c) not to make any issue when Ranil is made PM irrespective of the fact that Ranil did not enjoy majority in the then parliament.

    Ranil had to buy SLFP MPs later to show the majority and the same trick has now boomeranged on Ranil.

    Lately, Ranil could not keep to his agreement a) shown above due to sever pressure by civil society and special high courts had to be constituted which prompted the current constitutional conspiracy
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    කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Ivan Dissanayake is sleeping.
    As I said in another thread, RW made a big mistake by not executing those guys on the charge of Treason after the 2015 election.
    Now the whole country is in trouble with no good ending in sight.

    The Invisible wrote:Now Basil is giving 200mn each for UNP MPs to get their consent. How does he get this money? Are they belong to him? Why he still able to stand on his feet and travel freely? The guy should have been in jail by now, isn't it?

    Who cares all about these. NO ONE!!!!!!!
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    Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:06 am

    The NATO boys are bloody fools and they walk into traps set by others like stupid sheep.
    See the yesterday's, mass uprising.
    If you have the majority (as they claim) in the parliament, then no need to mobilise masses.
    They have given you the mandate to execute promises and not to cry like a child who lost marbles and run to big Mama for help.
    RW has proven that he is not a strategist or Wiseman as previously he was portraited by media and his foolish followers.
    It is a just another case of ලුලා නැති වලේ කනයා පන්ඩිතයා only.
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    Post by serene Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:38 am

    කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:The NATO boys are bloody fools and they walk into traps set by others like stupid sheep.
    See the yesterday's, mass uprising.
    If you have the majority (as they claim) in the parliament, then no need to mobilise masses.
    They have given you the mandate to execute promises and not to cry like a child who lost marbles and run to big Mama for help.
    RW has proven that he is not a strategist or Wiseman as previously he was portraited by media and his foolish followers.
    It is a just another case of ලුලා නැති වලේ කනයා පන්ඩිතයා only.
    Good for thought.
    Have to agree with Kith.


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    Post by slstock Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:39 am

    Yin-Yang wrote:Hey, forgot to mention.

    Few years ago, a CSE related forum had an election for the presidency. There was a very exciting voting process.

    Any of you guys know who was elected as President there?


    yellow knife wrote:Jiggysaurus

    Jiggy was later just given a "sham" post ( appointed ) by all powerful GMNet
    without any powers to do any mod activities as far as I know.

    Jiggy just used that sham title to have some Jiggying fun.
    Don't think that post had anything to do with an election as it was
    given by GMNet.  

    I think YY was  inferring a different instance.
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    Post by Yin-Yang Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:49 am

    Yeah it was pre-Jiggy era;
    Only Myself and SLS can recall I guess.





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    Post by yellow knife Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:53 am

    serene wrote:
    කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:The NATO boys are bloody fools and they walk into traps set by others like stupid sheep.
    See the yesterday's, mass uprising.
    If you have the majority (as they claim) in the parliament, then no need to mobilise masses.
    They have given you the mandate to execute promises and not to cry like a child who lost marbles and run to big Mama for help.
    RW has proven that he is not a strategist or Wiseman as previously he was portraited by media and his foolish followers.
    It is a just another case of ලුලා නැති වලේ කනයා පන්ඩිතයා only.
    Good for thought.
    Have to agree with Kith.


    LTTE purposely killed possible next Leaders of UNP. What is remaining in leadership is what is purposely left by LTTE.

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    Anyway we are deviating from the topic.


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    If you are serious, please read 48 rules of POWER.. Politics is nothing else but power game. This book will give you enough examples.

    There were few Honest people in politics. Abraham Lincoln may be one. Harry S.Truman was another. Even then in some books , it says former Presidents of US lobby on behalf of Industrialists at a price. In one such it has accused even Truman for doing that. However Truman who was not even given Presidents pension depended his retired life on his former military jobs pension. If that is the fate of US, how about it in SL.

    Clinton pardoned Marc Rich as his final duty on final day in office to be rewarded a half a billion USD as a donation for Clinton fund.

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    Post by Ethical Trader Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:35 pm

    As I stressed before also around 70% of our voters are married to the two main political parties and all other contestants out side the two main parties will be competing for the balance 30%.

    If the JVP becomes the third force, they will be able to attract a sizable portion of that 30% leaving all other contestants from small parties/independent just a fraction of that 30%.

    However much you are qualified morally and professionally in ethical sense and the two candidates from the main parties have no such qualities at all we are left with limited options when it comes to real voting.

    They are (a) refrain from voting or (b) cancellation of the vote or (c) vote for you knowing very well that your chances of winning are very remote.
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    Post by serene Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:44 pm

    Ethical Trader wrote:As I stressed before also around 70% of our voters are married to the two main political parties and all other contestants out side the two main parties will be competing for the balance 30%.

    If the JVP becomes the third force, they will be able to attract a sizable portion of that 30% leaving all other contestants from small parties/independent just a fraction of that 30%.

    However much you are qualified morally and professionally in ethical sense and the two candidates from the main parties have no such qualities at all we are left with limited options when it comes to real voting.

    They are (a) refrain from voting or (b) cancellation of the vote or (c) vote for you knowing very well that your chances of winning are very remote.  
    Yap ET.
    Till this 70% get reduced at least to 50% we just have to sit and watch dirty play. The sad reality of the Island.
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    Post by ruwan326 Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:17 pm

    රටේ පවතින තත්වය ...........

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    Post by Yin-Yang Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:01 pm

    ruwan326 wrote:රටේ පවතින තත්වය ...........


    I endorse most of what he says.
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    Post by yellow knife Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:18 pm

    Agreed....
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    Post by slstock Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:00 am

    Yin-Yang wrote:
    ruwan326 wrote:රටේ පවතින තත්වය ...........


    I endorse most of what he says.

    So was NK's injunction against the President dismissed by the Courts due to

    a) him not knowing the law  ( he confidently speaks here )
    b) the courts  being influenced


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    Post by slstock Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:17 am

    ET,

    Few months ago someone in a discussion asked "then whom to vote in SL."


    Then I went to explain in detail ( can't recall where I posted to give link) the issue with SL people is that they support the 2 main parties and they won't vote for any other person even if they are a good candidate.

    Well, you are echoing the same concern I had  so I cannot obviously disagree.


    But let me  ask 2 questions  



    1) So when is this  change ( letting a suitable candidate come through) going to happen , if we ( PUBLIC)  still want to accept the current system  and let it to continue?  

    2)  Will you vote for Kodithuwakku or Pallewatte then  knowing ...  

    what Kithsiri revealed on the  history  of some of them and also stating they are backed by Basil Rajapakse.


    Here are 2  facts as far as I know


    1) The Public of country  gets the Leader they DESERVE and ALLOW

    2) In DEMOCRACY the PUBLIC is above the  Legislature, Executive and Judiciary .










    Ethical Trader wrote:Dear SLS,
    your question whether I want my list of qualifications to be the future "truth" also depends on the ground situation in the future.

    If
    (a) our parliamentarians vote for MR as PM when they meet on the 16th of November,
    (b) the people in Sri Lanka also approve the current changes (which are questionable) at the next elections,
    (c) thereafter the MR government and the crowd reverse all legal proceedings against them and start robbing the country again

    ?can we expect a future where independent ethical professionals and leaders (sans ill gotten bounties) be able to contest & win Presidential elections without the backing of corrupt main parties The answer is no.

    All your good intentions to take the country in the right path and our backing for your independent candidacy will be in wain.

    In such a situation I have two options-

    (a) abstain from voting or show my displeasure by cancelling my vote with nasty remarks on the ballet paper, or

    (b) give a protest vote to a person like you (again to show my displeasure about the corrupt system knowing very well that you are unable to win under this corrupt system.)

    Irrespective of my choice the "system" will prosper. Hence, your initial question whether I would vote for you is irrelevant.

    That is why I said no at the very start. Its is not because I do not like you or your yeoman service to the society. In my opinion, you are the very best candidate for the Presidency if these corrupt systems do not sit on your way to Presidency.

    My way of thinking prompts me to deal with the main corrupt political systems first prior to contesting the elections.
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    Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:45 am

    We have to take a bold decision soon.
    නහයට උඩින් ගියාට පස්සේ ඔලුවටත් උඩින් ගියා කියලා ප්‍රශ්ණයක් නැහැනේ.
    So why are we afraid of changes?
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    Post by The Invisible Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:17 am

    Looked like a parliamentary election is on the cards before presidential revenue. Be ready to change in plans.
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    Post by slstock Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:25 am

    So

    1)  Under what specific legally approved procedure will Parliament be dismissed ?

    2) Also who should be ready to  change what plan?
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    Post by The Invisible Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:51 am

    slstock wrote:So

    1)  Under what specific legally approved procedure will Parliament be dismissed ?

    2) Also who should be ready to  change what plan?

    Legal experts point out under section 33.3 or 32.3 something the President can dissolve the parliament which has not been removed from the 19th amendment to constitution

    So in case that happens people need to focus on a government first before an individual ( president) so can there be an alternative political force to the main stream parties. This is what I meant.
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    Post by Yin-Yang Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:45 am

    slstock wrote:
    +
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    But let me  ask 2 questions  



    1) So when is this  change ( letting a suitable candidate come through) going to happen , if we ( PUBLIC)  still want to accept the current system  and let it to continue?  

    2)  Will you vote for Kodithuwakku or Pallewatte then  knowing ...  

    what Kithsiri revealed on the  history  of some of them and also stating they are backed by Basil Rajapakse.

    +
    +]

    Something interesting with NK is; he talks about voting for his 'to be presented' new legislature,  not voting for him as a person.

    That's a good start (or re-start).

    It's not the head we need to change; we desperately need the change in our systems & policies.
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    Post by The Invisible Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:49 am

    Legal experts were referring to this clause and they say 19th Amendment has not replaced this clause.

    33. (1) It shall be the duty of the President to -
    (a) ensure that the Constitution is respected and upheld;
    (b) promote national reconciliation and integration;
    (c) ensure and facilitate the proper functioning of the Constitutional Council and the institutions referred to in Chapter VIIA; and
    (d) on the advice of the Election Commission, ensure the creation of proper conditions for the conduct of free and fair elections and referenda.
    (2) In addition to the powers, duties and functions expressly conferred or imposed on, or assigned to the President by the Constitution or other written law, the President shall have the power -
    (a) to make the Statement of Government Policy in Parliament at the commencement of each session of Parliament;
    (b) to preside at ceremonial sittings of Parliament;
    (c) to summon, prorogue and dissolve Parliament;
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    Post by The Invisible Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:55 am

    The 19th amendment

    http://slembassyusa.org/downloads/19th_Amendment_S.pdf
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    Post by slstock Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:38 pm


    Reg President Dissolving Parliament

    Alright here is what I understand

    1)  19th Amendment Article 33(2)(c) says President can dissolve Parliament.

    2) But 19A  ,Article  70(1) included a proviso preventing the president from dissolving parliament until a lapse of four and-a-half years from the first meeting !  

    But if 2/3rd of Parliament vote to dissolve , President can dissolve.



    So there 2 confusions

    a) The question is whether the powers specified in Article 33(2) are stand-alone or subject to Article 70 which restricts dissolution within four and-a-half years.  

    b) There is a confusion between the Sinhala and English translation of the Constitution which is not identical ( will not go into details) . Anyway I believe the Sinhala version should prevail over English.


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    Most importantly is the President dissolving the Parliament legal  or not  even if he wants to ?


    Note :

    i) The 19th amendment was adopted on 15 May 2015
    ii) Current parliament came to office August 2015.

    So can it be dissolved Constitutionally and Legally until 2020 ?

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    It no secret that President is under fire on all walks of life ( from his 2014 behavior, recent PM firing act , insulting RW personal life on "Samanallu", acting funny during Jathika geeya etc etc)

    If he is going to dissolve he better get his Legal points right this time.    

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    This thread was not about MS, RW or MR.

    But I am taking time to discuss such as it is a national matter which affect all  
    and also related to the topic.
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    Post by yellow knife Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:54 pm

    Any lawyers here... who can advice us on above issues?
    But , even the experts share different views.

    Lawyers are like Buddhist Monks. What they preach is based on what Party Politics they prefer.

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    One thing is clear .

    All the constitutions as well as amendments here are done based on one principle.

    Self-interest.

    In US the founding fathers who got at Philadelphia to agree upon shared some common factors.

    They are fathers. ( No mothers among them).

    No Minority representatives...

    Yet when we were transforming into an independent nation, the British always based on Race...In all Solbery Commision , Baybrook Commission, the representatives were selected from each Race. Even now our politics is Race based.

    Means we will never see as Sri Lankans...

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    Apre moi Le-deluge

    I don't care what happens after my departure.....


    This was the whole thinking of Constitutions as well as Amendments. ( I am referring SL)

    1. JRJ created 1977 may be believing no one else would get 2/3 Majority.

    2. 18th Amendment by MR believing he only would be elected 3 times
    3. 19th Amendment by RW believing he will never be elected by people for President, and thus to enjoy unlimited power


    RW now lament on Constitutional Violations.. He signed Norway pact , well before 19th Amendment...

    Can a PM sign such a nationally important document when Executive President is staying over him? Who questioned that?

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