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    Post by sashimaal Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:13 pm

    The government will launch the Southern Development Plan aimed at developing the Southern Province, along with the development of Hambantota assisted by China, on January 7 in Hambantota.

    The launch will take place in the presence of Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, Chinese Ambassador Yi Xianliang and several key ministers, Chairman of Ruhunu Development Corporation, Ajita de Costa told Business Observer.

    The launch also coincides with the government’s vision for an era of sustainable development called Thirasara Yugayaka Thewasara Arambuma, starting on January 1. Under this project, China will set up several ventures including port, refinery and industrial zones. The proposed industrial zone to be set up by China will spread from Hambantota to Moneragala and Matara.

    China will be provided 15,000 acres of land and it will be released on a phase-by-phase basis depending on their availability.

    The Survey Department recently carried out a survey to determine the extent of government lands in those areas.

    Meanwhile Minister Malik Samarawickrama told the media last month that the government hopes to sign an agreement with the China Merchants Port Holdings Company Ltd. (CMPort) to set up a joint venture to run the port in Hambantota.

    According to the agreement, China Merchant Holdings will have a 85 percent stake in the new venture and the Sri Lanka Ports Authority, 15 percent.

    - http://sundayobserver.lk/2017/01/01/...velopment-plan
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    Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:13 pm

    විල්පත්තු වියසනේ දකුණටත් ! Shocked
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    Post by yaka Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:26 am

    shashimal please tell me do you agree giving 15000 acre to china?
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    Post by sashimaal Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:48 pm

    For me following have to be considered:

    - Environmental effect
    - Is land from people taken? if so what is the compensation?
    - Are lands from other important projects (current / future) taken? what is the plan for those others that will be sacrificed
    - Future security threat/s to Sri Lanka by doing so
    - Economic and Social value addition to our Country


    yaka wrote:shashimal please tell me do you agree giving 15000 acre to china?
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    Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:07 pm

    කට්ටියක් අස්සයෝ හොයන් ඇවිත් මෙහේ නැවතුනා. තවත් කට්ටියක් ගෙරි හමක තරම් ඉඩක් ඉල්ලගෙන නැවතුනා. චිනා මෙනවා කරයිද දන්නේ නැහැ ? Embarassed
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    Post by Yin-Yang Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:19 pm

    කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:කට්ටියක් අස්සයෝ හොයන් ඇවිත් මෙහේ නැවතුනා. තවත් කට්ටියක් ගෙරි හමක තරම් ඉඩක් ඉල්ලගෙන නැවතුනා. චිනා මෙනවා කරයිද දන්නේ නැහැ ? Embarassed

    හැඃ! හැඃ!! හෑ!!!

    තව ටික කලකින් ලෝක සිතියමේ තියෙයි "චී නංකා" කියල.
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    Post by HAL9000 Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:28 pm

    Our people act like we have a severe shortage of lands and investors are coming in numbers. Sadly the opposite is true. We have massive amount of unutilized lands, but we rarely get any sizable investment. Our economy said to be open since 1977 but the peoples minds are closed and blind.
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    Post by sashimaal Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:37 pm

    Yes well said.

    On the other hand we should look into our interests and our people while doing so. If that is done, there is no issue.

    As Kithsiri mentioned, Chinese ppl are also not coming only for "business" . That is the story we were told to by the previous Govt and now only they are telling the "real story" to their followers (balaya thiyenakota mole ne  OR  kiyanne ne...) Followers just say what they were told to as they believe koti nagitinawa + rata suddata/kotinta liyala denawa   Twisted Evil


    HAL9000 wrote:Our people act like we have a severe shortage of lands and investors are coming in numbers. Sadly the opposite is true. We have massive amount of unutilized lands, but we rarely get any sizable investment. Our economy said to be open since 1977 but the peoples minds are closed and blind.
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    Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:56 pm

    Past is a good indicator of what's to come in future.
    Look what's going on in some part of Africa with Chinese so-called Chines investments and then you will understand.
    Africa too has plenty of underutilised land.
    sashimaal wrote:Yes well said.

    On the other hand we should look into our interests and our people while doing so. If that is done, there is no issue.

    As Kithsiri mentioned, Chinese ppl are also not coming only for "business" . That is the story we were told to by the previous Govt and now only they are telling the "real story" to their followers (balaya thiyenakota mole ne  OR  kiyanne ne...) Followers just say what they were told to as they believe koti nagitinawa + rata suddata/kotinta liyala denawa   Twisted Evil


    HAL9000 wrote:Our people act like we have a severe shortage of lands and investors are coming in numbers. Sadly the opposite is true. We have massive amount of unutilized lands, but we rarely get any sizable investment. Our economy said to be open since 1977 but the peoples minds are closed and blind.
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    Post by sashimaal Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:13 pm

    Yes we need to make sure our interests are protected.

    China's plan for SL started atleast 5 years back.

    A dawaswala ada apen prashna karana eththo kohe hitiyada kiyala thamai hithaganna bari Question


    කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Past is a good indicator of what's to come in future.
    Look what's going on in some part of Africa with Chinese so-called Chines investments and then you will understand.
    Africa too has plenty of underutilised land.
    sashimaal wrote:Yes well said.

    On the other hand we should look into our interests and our people while doing so. If that is done, there is no issue.

    As Kithsiri mentioned, Chinese ppl are also not coming only for "business" . That is the story we were told to by the previous Govt and now only they are telling the "real story" to their followers (balaya thiyenakota mole ne  OR  kiyanne ne...) Followers just say what they were told to as they believe koti nagitinawa + rata suddata/kotinta liyala denawa   Twisted Evil


    HAL9000 wrote:Our people act like we have a severe shortage of lands and investors are coming in numbers. Sadly the opposite is true. We have massive amount of unutilized lands, but we rarely get any sizable investment. Our economy said to be open since 1977 but the peoples minds are closed and blind.
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    Post by yaka Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:09 pm

    wrong is wrong no matter who is done...... and saying that we'are doing the same mistake is because someone previously have done it is the dumbest excuse I hear.
    I may be a conservative person but in my view, we don't necessarily have to give our soil and resources to other countries to get developed. and mark me it also wont bring any such develop
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    Post by sashimaal Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:51 pm

    Yes wrong is wrong - whoever does it. This is what most Sri Lankans have to learn. Normally it is "ape ewun rata kanakota Uda balan innawa. Wena ekek ekama karanakota..... " . Let's be against both.

    General rules should be same for all . Other than A few conditions, a local or a foreigner; Sinhalese or Muslim or Tamil; Buddhist or Christian or Hindu ; Male or Female ; gay or lesbian.... anyone should be able to have the same opportunity to grow in Sri Lanka. Nobody is superior by birth !


    yaka wrote:wrong is wrong no matter who is done...... and saying that we'are doing the same mistake is because someone previously have done it is the dumbest excuse I hear.
    I may be a conservative person but in my view, we don't necessarily have to give our soil and resources to other countries to get developed. and mark me it also wont bring any such develop
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    Post by Yin-Yang Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:52 pm

    HAL9000 wrote:+
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    No Buddy!

    We have massive number of minds and bodies unutilized and malutilized.
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    Post by HAL9000 Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:20 pm

    Yin-Yang wrote:
    HAL9000 wrote:+
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    No Buddy!

    We have massive number of minds and bodies unutilized and malutilized.

    Yes, thats why I mentioned although the econony is opened, minds are closed.
    However I agree that  whatever the development activity we should try to preserve our envioronment for the future as Kith pointed out.
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    Post by HAL9000 Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:36 pm

    අපි දැක්ක හම්බන්තොට ගොවීන් යයි කියා ගන්න අරයගෙ කණ්ඩායමක් නගුල් එහෙම අරන් විරෝදතාවක නිරත වෙනවා. හරියට මේ කට්ටිය රටම අස්වද්දල ඉවර වෙලා වී, ධාන්‍ය, පිටරටවලටත් යවන කට්ටියක් වගෙයි. මේ වැඩ වලදී වත්මන් රජය, පහුගිය අය  තරම් උපක්‍රමශීලී නැති බව පැහැදිලියි . මෙහෙම එකපාරට අක්කර 15, 000 ක්  දෙනවා කිව්වම කවුරුත් කලබල වෙනවා. මේවා කොටස් වශයෙන් 99 අවුරුදු බදු දීම තමයි හොඳ. පහුගිය කාලයේ ශ්‍රීලංකාව සතු වටිනාම prime locations  කිවහැකි Galle Face  ඉදිරිපිට ඉඩම Shangri-La    සහ  Indian- ITC    ට බදු දෙනකම් කවුරුත් දන්නේ නෑ. කවුරුත් උදලු, නගුල් උස්සගෙන අවෙත් නෑ. මට හිතෙන්නේ මේ ඉඩම් වල ආයෝජනය කරලා රැකියා ඇතිකරීමෙන් රටට වාසියක් මිස අවාසියක් නැති බවයි.මොකද මේ ඉඩම් ඒ තැන වලින් ගලවල චීනයට හෝ ඉන්දියාවට අරගෙන යන්න බෑ නොවැ. ඔවුන් යද්දී ඒ වියාපාර විකුණලා යයි. එතකොට අපේ කට්ටිය ඒ වෙනකොටවත් පෝසත් වෙලා හිටියොත් ඒවා මිලට ගන්න බැරිය.

    තවත් දෙයක්, මෙවැනි විශාල පරිමාණ ආයෝජකයෝ එනවනම් ඔවුන්ගේ යෝජනා හොඳනම් ඉඩම් නිකන් දුන්නත් කමක් නෑ කියලයි මට හිතෙන්නේ. මොකද කොළඹ පවා රජයට අයිති වැඩකට ගෙන නැති ඉඩම් ඕන හැටිය තියෙනවා. පැරණි ගබඩා, දුම්රිය දෙපාර්තමේන්තු ඉඩම් , වැලිකඩ බන්ධනාගාරය, තනි තට්ටුවේ පැරණි රජයේ කාර්යාල වගේ තැන. ඒ තරමටම් අපේ රටේ ආයෝජන හිගයි. අපිට වඩා වසර ගණනාවකට පසු විවුර්ත කරපු වියට්නාමය වගේ රටක් වසරකට ඩොලර් බිලියන හතක් අටක් වගේ ලබාගන්න අතර අපේ රට බොහොම අමාරුවෙන් වසරකට ඩොලර් බිලියන එකක් විතරයි ගන්නේ . එකෙත් වැඩි හරිය හෝටල් හා මහල් නිවාස(Apartments) . මෙයින්  yellow knife කියන  විදියට  අලුත් කර්මාන්ත(Manufacturing)  ඇතිවෙලා අපනයන අදායම එහෙම දියුණු වෙන්නේ අඩුවෙන් . එක නිසා මේ ආරම්භ කරන්න යන පිලියන්දල ඉතාලි ටයර් කම්හල, චීන හා ඉන්දියානු කර්මාන්ත අපේ  රට දියුණු කරන්න ඉතා වැදගත්. මොකද පාලම්, පාරවල් බෝක්කු විතරක් හැදීමෙන් රටේ අදායම වැඩිවෙලා නියම දියුණුවක් වෙන්නේ නැති නිසා.  දැන් වෙලා තියෙන්නේ පහුගිය කාලෙ නය වෙලා හදපු යටිතල පහසු කම් මත ගොඩනැගුනු කරමාන්ත, ආයෝජන  නොමැති කමින් එම නය ගෙවා ගන්නවත් තරම් අදායමක් නැතිවෙලා නය උගුලක හිරවී තිබීමයි.පසුගිය රජය එසේ ගොඩනගපු වැදගත් යටිතල පහසුකම් වෙනුවෙන් අපි ඔවුන්ට ප්‍රණාමය පුද කරන අතරම ඔවුන්ට එතරම් කර්මාන්ත සඳහා ආයෝජන ලබා ගන්න නොහැකිවීම කණගාටුවට කරුණක්.
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    Post by sashimaal Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:02 am

    Good stuff Hal9000

    From what i hear , Hambanthota will give only 5000 acres or less. Other areas such as Monaragala, etc will provide the rest. Few years back i went to Ampara via Monaragala route and saw hours and hours driving with empty land on either side (just referring to the land on the side of the main road). Much can be done than say "it is ours" and do nothing.

    Vietnam is way ahead of us due to their stance towards free trade (not scared like us by protecting locals forever as they can't compete/scared). Apart from that their minds are not poisoned by nationalistic ideologies and they work very hard. There are other reasons as well...but without the above none would be of importance.
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    Post by yaka Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:34 am

    "මොකද මේ ඉඩම් ඒ තැන වලින් ගලවල චීනයට හෝ ඉන්දියාවට අරගෙන යන්න බෑ නොවැ. ඔවුන් යද්දී ඒ වියාපාර විකුණලා යයි. එතකොට අපේ කට්ටිය ඒ වෙනකොටවත් පෝසත් වෙලා හිටියොත් ඒවා මිලට ගන්න බැරිය"
    good statement.. so how do you expect them to be rich??
    by working in a foreign owned company for a monthly wages??
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    Post by HAL9000 Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:21 pm

    yaka wrote:"මොකද මේ ඉඩම් ඒ තැන වලින් ගලවල චීනයට හෝ ඉන්දියාවට අරගෙන යන්න බෑ නොවැ. ඔවුන් යද්දී ඒ වියාපාර විකුණලා යයි. එතකොට අපේ කට්ටිය ඒ වෙනකොටවත් පෝසත් වෙලා හිටියොත් ඒවා මිලට ගන්න බැරිය"
    good statement.. so how do you expect them to be rich??
    by working in a foreign owned company for a monthly wages??

    I do not expect the emplyees to get rich, but the business community as a whole. I was referring to KDDP type investors. At present we have a handful, India and China has the fastest growing number of new millionairs. We need some more. Do we have a local investor who can buy out Sri Lankan air lines or Hambanthota port. I will give a detailed answer for your question later.
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    Post by Yin-Yang Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:44 pm

    HAL9000 wrote:
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    Do we have a local investor who can buy out Sri Lankan air lines or Hambanthota port. .
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    චැහ්හ්!!

    We could have easily had if you guys let the other party win neh!

    Now the best option is to let that guy bid for few more bonds.
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    Post by HAL9000 Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:16 pm

    HAL9000 wrote:
    yaka wrote:"මොකද මේ ඉඩම් ඒ තැන වලින් ගලවල චීනයට හෝ ඉන්දියාවට අරගෙන යන්න බෑ නොවැ. ඔවුන් යද්දී ඒ වියාපාර විකුණලා යයි. එතකොට අපේ කට්ටිය ඒ වෙනකොටවත් පෝසත් වෙලා හිටියොත් ඒවා මිලට ගන්න බැරිය"
    good statement.. so how do you expect them to be rich??
    by working in a foreign owned company for a monthly wages??

    I do not expect the emplyees to get rich, but the business community as a whole. I was referring to KDDP type investors. At present we have a handful, India and China has the fastest growing number of new millionairs. We need some more. Do we have a local investor who can buy out Sri Lankan air lines or Hambanthota port. I will give a detailed answer for your question later.

    මේ සිදුවීම් සහ කොමෙන්ට් කියවද්දී මට මතක් වෙනවා මේ වගේම 90 දශකයේ ප්‍රේමදාස ජනාධිපති වරයා ඇඟලුම් කම්හල් 200 කියල වැඩසටහනක් කලා. මෙයින් වැඩි ප්‍රමාණයකට ඒ කලේ ආයෝජනය කලේ කොරියානු ආයෝජකයින්. එතකොටත් මේ වගේම දේශපාලන විරුධ්ධවාදීන් මෙන්ම ගතානුගතික සෙට් එක කෑ මොර දෙන්න ගත්ත මෙන්න අපේ රට කොරියාවට විකුනනවෝ, අපේ ගෑනු ළමයි කොරියන් කාරයන්ගේ වහල් කමට ගන්නවෝ කියල. හැබැයි පසු කාලයක මෙම කොරියන් ආයෝජකයින් රට හැර යද්දී(ඇතැම් අය ඒ කලේ පැදුරටත් නොකිය ගිය ) ලංකාවට වැඩි කොටස් සහිත සමාගම්, අයෝජකයන් ඉදිරිපත් වෙලා මේව මිලදී ගෙන වැඩිදියුණු කළා.මේ අනුව Brandix, MAS holdings වගේ සමාගම් සහ ඩයන් ගෝමස්, කෙන් බාලේන්ද්‍ර වැනි විශිෂ්ට විවසයකයින් බිහි වෙනවා. අද වනවිට මෙය ලංකාවේ අංක එකේ කර්මාන්තය බවට පත්වෙලා ඉවරයි. අද ලෝකයේ ඉහලම පෙලේ සන්නාම සහිත ඇඟලුම් විතරක් නෙමේ ජාත්‍යන්තර මට්ටමේ දේශීය සන්නාම( Avirate, Amante etc) පවා බිහිවී තිබෙනවා. මේ කතාවම එදා කණ්ඩලම හෝටලය හදද්දී සිදුවුණා. දේශපලන වීරයින් මෙය රෝහලක්, කෞතුකාගාරයක් කරන බවට ශපත කලා. හැබැයි දැන් මෙය ලෝකයේ වඩාත්ම පරිසර හිතකාමී හෝටලක් විතරක් නෙමේ, ඉහලම මිලකට කාමර අලෙවි වන විදේශ විනිමය උපයන උල්පතක් වී හමාරයි. තවත් කතාවක්, 90 දශකයේ ලංකාවට පරිඝනක ආගන්තුක අවධියේ හැමෝටම  උනන්දුවක්  තිබුන මේක මොඅක්ක්ද කියල දන ගන්න. ඒ කලේ හැම තැනම පරිඝනක පාඨමාල, සමහර අය දොස්කියන්න ගත්ත මේක විලාසිතාවක් වගේ කිරීම පිස්සුවක්, පරිඝනකයෙන් කරන්නේ ටයිප් රෛටරයෙන් කරනදේම  තමයි, මේ හැමෝම ළමයි ටයිපිස්ට් ලා වෙන්නද හදන්නේ වගේ චෝදනා ඒ කාලේ වැඩිහිටියෝ කරන්න ගත්ත. හැබැයි අද පරිඝනකය අත්‍යවශ්‍ය උපකරණයක් වගේම , වේගයෙන් දියුණුවන ජාත්‍යන්තර මට්ටමේ මෘදුකාංග කර්මන්තයකුත් ලංකාවේ ඇතිවෙලා තියෙනව.

    ඉතින් මේක නිසා මට නම් කියන්න තියෙන්නේ, පැරණි ක්‍රමයටම සිතීමෙන්, නව දොරවල් විවුර්ත නොවන බව විතරයි.!
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    Post by Yin-Yang Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:38 pm

    ||||, පරිඝනකයෙන් කරන්නේ ටයිප් රෛටරයෙන් කරනදේම තමයි, මේ හැමෝම ළමයි ටයිපිස්ට් ලා වෙන්නද හදන්නේ වගේ චෝදනා ඒ කාලේ වැඩිහිටියෝ කරන්න ගත්ත||||


    බොරු නොකිය හිටු.
    මොකෙක්වත් එහෙම කොරේ නෑ.


    ||||එතකොටත් මේ වගේම දේශපාලන විරුධ්ධවාදීන් මෙන්ම ගතානුගතික සෙට් එක කෑ මොර දෙන්න ගත්ත මෙන්න අපේ රට කොරියාවට විකුනනවෝ, අපේ ගෑනු ළමයි කොරියන් කාරයන්ගේ වහල් කමට ගන්නවෝ කියල. ||||

    ඒක නම් හැබෑව.


    ||||ඉතින් මේක නිසා මට නම් කියන්න තියෙන්නේ, පැරණි ක්‍රමයටම සිතීමෙන්, නව දොරවල් විවුර්ත නොවන බව විතරයි.!||||

    පට්ට ඇත්ත.


    |||| අද ලෝකයේ ඉහලම පෙලේ සන්නාම සහිත ඇඟලුම් විතරක් නෙමේ ජාත්‍යන්තර මට්ටමේ දේශීය සන්නාම( Avirate, Amante etc) පවා බිහිවී තිබෙනවා. ||||

    අන්න අපිට ඕන දේ මල්ලි!

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    Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:03 pm

    සොච්චමක් ලමයින්ට පඩි දිළා කෝට්පතියන් බිහිවිම දියුණු විමක් කියලා හිතීම  දනාත්මක සිතිමක් කියලා හිතනවනම් එගොඩට නෝඑක්වෙන එක හොදා ! Shocked
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    Post by yellow knife Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:13 am

    Sri Lankans became Anti-Indian during 87-89 and in 2016...
     (surprisingly not during last Elam War )
    Who was the common factor to create this mentality..?

    For the very first time in my life now Sri Lankans become Anti-Chinese....

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    This is what happen when a  fool start to lead a nation...
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    Post by HAL9000 Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:36 am

    It is also worth to look into who provoked Anti Indian and Anti Chineese agendas during both periods. History repeats.
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    Post by yellow knife Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:46 am

    If people of a nation do not get provoked when their land is grabbed , they will end up like Ethiopians...


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