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    Post by poor boy Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:31 pm

    why Maharaja is inactive these days? he is a very resourceful person and his presence in this forum is very useful. he gave me very good stock tips through a private msg, i noticed all performed more than 15% with few days in this recovery.thanks maharaja.
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    Post by slstock Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:02 pm

    1) I don't know where he is. Did you try PMing him?

    But what I can say is I spent hours and hours and hours sitting in the middle being a target, trying to mediate so much so Maharaja will fit into the forum. I even made posts saying we need to give him chances and not stamp him. I even requested seniors to guide him and let him fit ( while asking Maharaja too to do the same) . I spoke on his behalf as well as others so now I maybe no one friend.

    I maybe harping here , but I did my part. Later I saw he made few good posts.


    Also when he posted anything that is useful ( whenever I saw), I tried to acknowledge and motivated him personally. Some other people also did the same when such was due.


    2)

    Now "he gave me very good stock tips through a private msg, i noticed all performed more than 15% with few days in this recovery."


    Now why does this have to be a secret in a public forum?
    So what are these shares ?


    A GENERAL phenomenon to note:

    I just want to draw everybody attention ( this may not apply to Maharaja's recommendation above to you or no offence to anyone )

    If I say buy ZZZZ.N at Rs XXX and say it will hit Rs XXX+YY, and if ZZZZ drop 20% in ASI down the the guy who bought at XXX is at 20% loss.

    The person who is fortunate to catch the bottom ( and has money then to buy) may earn 10-15% when it recovers. But XXX guy? Issue is how many won? How many lost.

    Actually I can name so many shares that dropped 20-40% even and recovered 10-20%.

    This is no indifference, attack or demoralization to anyone. This is a fact. Just raising a point about earning 10-20% from bottom.



    This is why I once made lot of posts on giving specific details on shares that are volatile so people are extra careful ( good for trading) and shares that are slower moving and stronger to hold in down trends ( I may have taken as example VFIN vs Poultry sector volatility to explain , the post maybe in a thread I wish not to go back to )









    poor boy wrote:why Maharaja is inactive these days? he is a very resourceful person and his presence in this forum is very useful. he gave me very good stock tips through a private msg, i noticed all performed more than 15% with few days in this recovery.thanks maharaja.


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    Post by Admin Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:07 pm

    Maharaja - please send that via PM if needed. The reply is not relevant.
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    Post by Maharaja Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:47 pm

    Hahhahaha okay okay

    Poor boy ,,looks like some bosses here had complained to our admin.... the reason why admin quickly stops me replying further.

    Have some class friends.. that is all I can say.

    For my other friends.. Be a little careful after the market is near 6500. there can be a small selling there.
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    Post by tharindufit Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:19 pm

    This is what Maharaja said on Dec. 9 (3 month Share Prediction Exit PLC 26, GRAN 109)
    Stop Loss PLC 19, GRAN 84

    PLC was @22
    GRAN was @90

    Both went onto hit his stop losses so both predictions wrong. And he said he will not predict if those two predictions gone wrong. Didn't he? :-)

    GRAN went on to hit 68 or even less
    PLC went on to hit some 18.x or so

    https://forum.lankaninvestor.com/t6859-3-month-share-predictions
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    Post by smallville Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:44 pm

    I dont think anybody complained.. as 6550 it also a tech resistant, share with us what to buy near 6500 or what to sell.


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    Post by sashimaal Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:35 pm

    Stop loss happened in a panic selling day where most shares came to unrealistic levels. It quickly corrected afterwards.

    I think Maharaja has been doing a good job. Let him post using his style.


    tharindufit wrote:This is what Maharaja said on Dec. 9 (3 month Share Prediction Exit PLC 26, GRAN 109)
    Stop Loss PLC 19, GRAN 84

    PLC was @22
    GRAN was @90

    Both went onto hit his stop losses so both predictions wrong. And he said he will not predict if those two predictions gone wrong. Didn't he? :-)

    GRAN went on to hit 68 or even less
    PLC went on to hit some 18.x or so

    https://forum.lankaninvestor.com/t6859-3-month-share-predictions
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    Post by slstock Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:42 am

    I don't know about anyone complaining , but I can clearly see the reason why admin account said such after you replied. Think again. You might also see more clearly why.






    Maharaja wrote:Hahhahaha okay okay

    Poor boy ,,looks like some bosses here had complained to our admin.... the reason why admin quickly stops me replying further.

    Have some class friends.. that is all I can say.

    For my other friends.. Be a little careful after the market is near 6500. there can be a small selling there.


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    Post by Rana Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:52 am

    admin done his work nicely. otherwise all members are going after share predictions and forum will be ***********. forum should be a school for investors and it shouldn't be trade centre
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    Post by Leon Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:16 am

    Rana wrote:admin done his work nicely. otherwise all members are going after share predictions and forum will be ***********. forum should be a school for investors and it shouldn't be trade centre

    I see bit of a sarcasm or under estimation here of traders.
    This is my view, being a successful trader is not easy by any mean. Trader has to be vigilant & also active in identifying short & medium term trends. Even in a downtrend trader can be successful.
    But as you said you can decide who you are.
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    Post by sashimaal Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:06 am

    Agree with you Leon. Also people who do not know the scope of technical trading should first read about such. Look at the Asha Phillip Tech guide. All shares has hit stop loss and most are wait and watch status.

    Rana - The topic clearly said 3 month share predictions. People who are longer term may not refer such threads. Always DYODD as gain or loss is yours. New comers maybe better off avoiding technical calls till they understand why such is said.


    Leon wrote:
    Rana wrote:admin done his work nicely. otherwise all members are going after share predictions and forum will be ***********. forum should be a school for investors and it shouldn't be trade centre

    I see bit of a sarcasm or under estimation here of traders.
    This is my view, being a successful trader is not easy by any mean. Trader has to be vigilant & also active in identifying short & medium term trends. Even in a downtrend trader can be successful.
    But as you said you can decide who you are.
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    Post by Admin Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:38 am

    Maha would have been banned for misleading in an initial post and later beating around the bush (SDB). When asked repeatedly he started talking about 'class' and other complaints against admin.

    Some of the later posts made some sense and also people such as slstock supported him back then.

    tharidufit is correct in spotting what Maha said. We have seen many who have tried to create sensation by posting "if this happens I will ..... " or  "If this doesn't happen, I will ...."

    Poor boy's topic was ok, but the reply was not relevant here - which was the point that Admin is trying to address here. For any criticism all Maha can think of is complaints, seniors, class etc., Why do others think the same? All facts are here in this thread.

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    Post by chutiputha Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:04 am

    Dear Admin,Shall I paste that Forum Terms of service to read again..
    (Before Create a New User Account )

    This is the things that I easily show u all that Maha and few others couldnt to remember.

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    * Unwarranted promotional activities in the forum are not allowed and such posts will be deleted without notice by the moderators. These activities include, but not limited to - Stating unrealistic target prices without any fundamental or technical reasoning. - Stating a direction of a stock blindly without any reasons whatsoever - Repeatedly opening new threads for the same stock within a short time span, unless the subject is significantly different. - Using misleading topics with malicious intent
    * Articles authored and posted by the members belong to the authors themselves. The forum administration will not allow others or the forum itself to use it without prior consent by the author.
    * Using the forum to share insider information is prohibited.
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    Post by tharindufit Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:34 am

    sashimaal wrote:Agree with you Leon. Also people who do not know the scope of technical trading should first read about such. Look at the Asha Phillip Tech guide. All shares has hit stop loss and most are wait and watch status.

    Rana - The topic clearly said 3 month share predictions. People who are longer term may not refer such threads. Always DYODD as gain or loss is yours. New comers maybe better off avoiding technical calls till they understand why such is said.


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    Rana wrote:admin done his work nicely. otherwise all members are going after share predictions and forum will be ***********. forum should be a school for investors and it shouldn't be trade centre

    I see bit of a sarcasm or under estimation here of traders.
    This is my view, being a successful trader is not easy by any mean. Trader has to be vigilant & also active in identifying short & medium term trends. Even in a downtrend trader can be successful.
    But as you said you can decide who you are.
    Btw, I hold both the shares and and I'm a long term investor, and I did buy them at their lows not what Maharaja predicted @ 22 or 90. I started my buys around 80s for GRAN and and 20s for PLC. So don't think my comment as I was blaming Maharaja. But I pointed out no-one is right, he was boosting so much about himself and he shouldn't for my opinion. There's so much nice articles about Shares, and why shouldn't he post such? not predictions
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    Post by smallville Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:37 am

    Dear Admin,

    What I understood, Maha is not matured in referring to forums for a better part of his carrier as an investor/trader. Therefore, forum ethics is Nil. Yet, he can be tamed and can be of useful. We already see that his funny type of writing has lessened and more of an analysis types are springing up.
    I dont talk about his predictions but to me the shares he chooses are worthy of holding. PARQ, APLA, PLC, GRAN are better in many contexts. His initial posts were funny but with time and forum members asking him to be more responsible, I saw he presents short but good analysis. There are times he was aggressive too but overall improvement is seen.

    Imo, there should be people who talk about shares with reasons. Not only few should discuss these. There should be contrary views as well. The reasoning to be regarded as tech/pattern/fundamental. so we get a lot of views and ideas that are useful for further analysis.

    At the depth of manipulation, tech go wrong so does other analysis. As more of a tech analyst, I myself is not prepared to dig deeper than FIb 50%. But shares dip in unhealthy circumstances. In the very recent past how many short tech opportunities by myself, Hunter and pathfinder failed? Our initial entry positions broken due to manipulations. How much Ashaphillip has failed?

    So lets giv maharaja a change and see whether he can justify his ideas.
    Most of all, a time frame has been given in initial post as 3 months, so within 3 months those cannot be achieved, then his credibility at stake.. Lets give a try to make the best use of a man and make him FIT to the forum..

    Maharaja,

    From your part - I expect you to be good to the members and not run into arguments draggin admins, seniors for every matter. No need of cock n bull stories or misled dramas. None of who ur accusing are a part of your problem. If you change, who would benefit? who would be getting a "like", who would be getting "thanks", "good job" kind of words?
    So Think about it..


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    Post by tharindufit Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:46 am

    smallville wrote:Dear Admin,

    What I understood, Maha is not matured in referring to forums for a better part of his carrier as an investor/trader. Therefore, forum ethics is Nil. Yet, he can be tamed and can be of useful. We already see that his funny type of writing has lessened and more of an analysis types are springing up.
    I dont talk about his predictions but to me the shares he chooses are worthy of holding. PARQ, APLA, PLC, GRAN are better in many contexts. His initial posts were funny but with time and forum members asking him to be more responsible, I saw he presents short but good analysis. There are times he was aggressive too but overall improvement is seen.

    Imo, there should be people who talk about shares with reasons. Not only few should discuss these. There should be contrary views as well. The reasoning to be regarded as tech/pattern/fundamental. so we get a lot of views and ideas that are useful for further analysis.

    At the depth of manipulation, tech go wrong so does other analysis. As more of a tech analyst, I myself is not prepared to dig deeper than FIb 50%. But shares dip in unhealthy circumstances. In the very recent past how many short tech opportunities by myself, Hunter and pathfinder failed? Our initial entry positions broken due to manipulations. How much Ashaphillip has failed?

    So lets giv maharaja a change and see whether he can justify his ideas.
    Most of all, a time frame has been given in initial post as 3 months, so within 3 months those cannot be achieved, then his credibility at stake.. Lets give a try to make the best use of a man and make him FIT to the forum..

    Maharaja,

    From your part - I expect you to be good to the members and not run into arguments draggin admins, seniors for every matter. No need of cock n bull stories or misled dramas. None of who ur accusing are a part of your problem. If you change, who would benefit? who would be getting a "like", who would be getting "thanks", "good job" kind of words?
    So Think about it..
    +1. I agree with this totally.
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    Post by slstock Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:49 am

    Alright.

    As admin account has clarified now and I was heavily involved in this Maharaja matter before , I will waste more time to say below before things go astray in this thread ( for sake of forum decorum) .

    What is right is right. What is wrong is wrong.

    This is what I see.

    1) Poor boy asking where is Maharaja is no problem.
    Also if he is a fan of Maharaja good for them both.



    2)
    But Poorboy posted this as a Public post . But he is talking about Private Messages on certain shares which was not revealed in public. ( we don't know what)

    So unless the share names are revealed ,this more of private thing and no use to forum people or general public. If share names were revealed in public we could have discussed the validity and accuracy in public.


    If not, is it not a Private matter between them?
    If so private messaging can be used instead. No need of what is happening in this thread now.




    3)

    Maharaja replies with 2 things

    a) he too chooses not to mention the share names.
    Then a reply is made mostly to Poorboy.
    That private right?

    So Admin account asking them to PM each other is fine as far as I can see.




    b) Maharaja is assuming again ,

    "some bosses here had complained to our admin...."
    And suggest to "Have some class"

    This clash between Maharaja and Seniors ( bosses) cannot go on for the health of the forum.

    This time I take seniors side as they acted decent and didn't even comment to say anything bad. Yet Maharaja has assumed and pointed fingers..

    Maharaja, who are you suspecting here?
    If you have reservations say the names, say it out loud and and get it solved once and for all.




    4)
    The Point made on stop loss is valid.



    5)

    To avoid any misinterpretations or misunderstandings


    None of us should be claiming credit for something like this .

    ( THIS IS AN EXAMPLE TO DEMONSTRATE ONLY. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT Poorboy and Maha has claimed as succesfull trades as it was not revealed)


    For argument sake let take GRAN .

    If by chance if GRAN was something Maha told Poorboy to buy, and Poor boy made profit, then I expect Maha not to claim it was successful prediction ( as of now)
    ( AGAIN this is an example to illustrate so don't mix up)

    Why?
    It's like my saying, buy CIND at Rs 100 , stop loss 90, with target of Rs 130 in 3 months. ( an example am not predicting here)

    IF CIND drops to Rs 80 and goes back to 95 , I cannot claim my prediction is valid can I ? Why CIND is at a loss of Rs 5 from my initial buying price which was seen by many.
    My telling One person via PM to buy at Rs 80 and at Rs 95 I should not claim that my prediction made 20% profit. Actually it is at 5% loss to so many more who bought at Rs 100 due to my call.


    Now within 3 months if CIND goes to Rs 130 then at that time I can claim, my prediction is valid.

    Do you see the point ? ( it should be clear)



    6)

    I don't think traders need to be upset in RANA post.

    What I see is a main message trying to say ( in other words) something like below

    what will happen to the forum is everyone started posting random trading predictions of share names - mainly share we hold ( we know where it happens in cyber space and the gravity of the outcome) .

    So traders don't feel bad to take it as an offence.


    But I can see certain word Rana used can be interpreted in different ways .

    Note Rana just started commenting more in the forum.
    So let's go a bit easy on him with his wording.


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    Post by Admin Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:01 am

    small - yes that is what I also meant. Initial posts were not good. Later they were better and also some were in support so he can continue

    It does not even matter even if 'predictions' do not come right. After all, not every one can be right. But attempting to create sensations by posting in such a way is not welcome.

    Thanks chuti for posting the points from forum rules.
    I will not forget SDB matter, which everyone has chosen to forget or no one has bothered to question.
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    Post by smallville Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:01 am

    slstock wrote:

    Why?
    It's like my saying, buy CIND at Rs 100 , stop loss 90, with target of Rs 130 in 3 months. ( an example am not predicting here)

    IF CIND drops to Rs 80 and goes back to 95 ,  I cannot claim my prediction is valid can I ? Why CIND is at a loss of Rs 5 from my  initial buying price which was seen by many.
    My telling a person via PM  to buy at Rs 80 and at Rs 95  I should not claim that my predition made 20% profit.

    Now within 3 months if CIND goes to Rs 130 then at that time I can claim, my prediction is valid.

    Do you see the point ? ( it should be clear)

    Good clarification..

    This is an addition to me saying if a person buy a share at the pick up price, there's still risk involved as manipulation can take it further down. It doesn't mean the price picked up was wrong (as the priced was marked evaluating certain criteria - previous support, other tech indicators, fair value, 52 weeks low, any other valid reasons....) but nobody has a say in a purpose driven manipulational attempt.
    So if someone picked up strong fundamental counters, even if they failed in very short term, 2-3 months, there's a good possibility to pass the initial price.

    slstock wrote:
    6)  I don't think traders need to be upset  in  RANA  post.

      What I see is a  main message trying to say  ( in other words) something like  below

    what will happen to the forum is everyone started posting  random trading predictions of share names - mainly share we hold  ( we know where it happens in cyber space and the gravity of the outcome) .

    So traders  don't feel bad to take it as an offence.


    But I can see  certain word Rana  used can be interpreted in different ways .

    Note Rana  just started commenting more in the forum.
    So let's go a bit easy on him with his wording.

    True enuf.. lets give these ppl a hand to mature Smile


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    Post by smallville Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:04 am

    Admin wrote:
    I will not forget SDB matter, which everyone has chosen to forget or no one has bothered to question.

    Yes I remember the matter.. That was a disaster.. But as time goes by, we loss track on this...

    Maharaja should have been more responsible to accept he made a mistake or should come-up with valid reasons to counter argue..


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    Post by nis2008 Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:06 am

    affraid


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    Post by sashimaal Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:13 am

    ok, that's fine. When he gave his call he couldn't have seen the market crash - neither did we. That is not manipulation.

    Understanding manipulation is important - when a call goes wrong it is not always manipulation.

    On the other hand, if we put the rule book ahead all the time and dwell on it, we will end up with no one posting. I for one haven't seen many people posting to the level of Maharaja. But many are there to blame.

    Note: That doesn't give him any immunity. We have seen people who have started with a few proper postings follow up with manipulative ones. So be watchful without putting pressure on him in every post he makes.


    tharindufit wrote:
    sashimaal wrote:Agree with you Leon. Also people who do not know the scope of technical trading should first read about such. Look at the Asha Phillip Tech guide. All shares has hit stop loss and most are wait and watch status.

    Rana - The topic clearly said 3 month share predictions. People who are longer term may not refer such threads. Always DYODD as gain or loss is yours. New comers maybe better off avoiding technical calls till they understand why such is said.


    Leon wrote:
    Rana wrote:admin done his work nicely. otherwise all members are going after share predictions and forum will be ***********. forum should be a school for investors and it shouldn't be trade centre

    I see bit of a sarcasm or under estimation here of traders.
    This is my view, being a successful trader is not easy by any mean. Trader has to be vigilant & also active in identifying short & medium term trends. Even in a downtrend trader can be successful.
    But as you said you can decide who you are.
    Btw, I hold both the shares and and I'm a long term investor, and I did buy them at their lows not what Maharaja predicted @ 22 or 90. I started my buys around 80s for GRAN and and 20s for PLC. So don't think my comment as I was blaming Maharaja. But I pointed out no-one is right, he was boosting so much about himself and he shouldn't for my opinion. There's so much nice articles about Shares, and why shouldn't he post such? not predictions
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    Post by Rana Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:26 am

    take it easy, I tried to said what admin done is correct,
    I have a common questions to all
    1. why you guys started this forum??
    2. Why admin doesn't allow to promote shares??
    3. Why most experts left SLE* ?
    IF you can find answer then you will not hang with me
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    Post by Jana1 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:08 pm

    Since few seniors here accept Maha's prediction I would probably need to clarify my views.

    Few members being active in the forum is so essential. When market is down collecting counter slowly is fine. But predicting market bottom and advising buy at this price and you can sell at this price is so hypothetical.

    Who can predict the market where so many uncertainty exist? If sum1 could prove I will give up my investment.

    In Maha's post where he address sellers as idiots, I thought this chap was making fun. Mkt crashed as panic caused by world recession. At some stage it was clear evidence that was manipulation as mkt felt artificially. Still the risk is there but local buying and selling is at some sustainable stage with new reports and improved profits.

    Fortunately, when Maha was stating to buy mkt has started to pull up as that is natural. In case if it goes down he would have kept silent under the carpet. If he is genius he must have stated mkt down at ASI peak.

    As Small addressed Maha is very young chap, by his way of writing try to get some recognition to be promoted as senior here. To become a mature person ever1 need to grow and it takes time, there is no shortcut.

    Sasi is very good recognizer about people. It appears he is also lost judgment in this scenario. BTW he must be jumping on his chair since last Friday night.

    The only counter I pumped money is PARQ during the mkt drop. I will harvest its return. At that time, no factual evidence I had to collect on credit, so couldn't collect the qty I wanted as mkt was going down.
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    Post by Rana Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:25 pm

    i would like to apologize if someone misunderstood about my post. because of my poor english writing skills. Very Happy . . I never try to offend a person or a group.I write what I feel and think

    i don't like to name peoples and forums. but i have to tell some names in here. most of the experts in this forum were from SLEF, Am I correct??. so why you left that forum. talk to your conscience.

    i can give my personnel experience
    my first investment is RHL at 28 and it reached to 31, one of expert said it will run 40 and buy buy hurry.So I saw some buying pressure and i bought some reasonable amount. when I realized the truth i sold it 29 and it never went to 40.

    my first investment end without loss. but what will happens if prediction goes wrong.

    these promoters has an agenda. they highlight one as a stock guru and his clan always asks help and try to build a big shot. when they reached to their targets they will disappear and again come with another names .

    if this forum allows promoting shares then no one will post educational stuffs and can see buy buy hurry posts every where . we will loss real value of the forum.I also asked about some shares and market directions form some peoples via pm's.

    someone can feel that I'm a nurd.but if someone read this open mind . he will get something.

    Mr.SLS got it correctly what i needed to say
    slstock wrote:Alright.  
    I don't think traders need to be upset  in  RANA  post.

      What I see is a  main message trying to say  ( in other words) something like  below

    what will happen to the forum is everyone started posting  random trading predictions of share names - mainly share we hold  ( we know where it happens in cyber space and the gravity of the outcome) .

    So traders  don't feel bad to take it as an offence.


    But I can see  certain word Rana  used can be interpreted in different ways .

    Note Rana  just started commenting more in the forum.
    So let's go a bit easy on him with his wording.

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