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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:10 am

    Softlogic is a relatively new entrant to Holding company category but could stand par with many centuries old companies. As pioneer and Chairman Ashok Pathirage states in annual report " a long term view is essential to sustainable growth". Company which started in 1991 and was into trading business. Well known branded electronic items like Nokia phones and Dell computers were genuinely sold by them. When duplicates and smuggled items were cheaply available of the same brand Softlogic insisted on genuine business and proved the success of being genuine.

    Revenue-wise Softlogic remain up and above Aitken Spence which is a very old company. Aitken Spence remains flat and stable where SHL is up and maintain continuous momentum.

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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:10 am

    However Profti-wise Aitken Spence shows more prudent than SHL

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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:14 am

    Revenue was continoulsy growing and reached 40 Billion mark.

    Annual report 2015 states " Consumer and investor confidence recovered in 2014 due to
    1 low inflation and
    2.interest rates and
    3. the exchange rate remaining stable. "

    Since the exchange rate is now unstable it may have a negative  impact on branded genuine product sellers.

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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:16 am

    EPS is not consistent and is not attractive at current market price levels

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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:17 am

    Since listing company always maintained a figure of higher market price than net asset position.

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    If you compare above with Hayley's the elephant in Holdings, its Market value was often lesser than Net Asset Value

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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:26 am

    Debt to Equity ratio was always kept high. Having good contacts with finance sector may be one reason. In addition to that aggressive acquisitions being a strategic move also cause this situation.

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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:43 am

    Company consist of 6 different areas

    1. Information & Communication Technology

    The company takes competitive advantage by being authorized agent for best brands like Dell, Nokia, Samsung etc.

    2. Retail

    owns 93.39% of Odel, and opened stores in Liberty Plaza for Pepe Jeans, Giordano . Burgher King is added to restaurant line

    3. Healthcare Services

    Central Hospital, Asiri Surgical  Hospital  and another hospital in Kandy scheduled to open in 2018 .

    4. Financial Services

    Softlogic Finance, Assian Alliance Insurace and Softlogic Stockbrokers

    5. Automobiles

    The automobile range does not include attractive brands to SL market. King Long buses are newest addition. Ford models are not that much attractive in SL

    6. Leisure

    Centara Ceysand Resort started operations in 2014
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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:58 am

    When we comparing South Korea and Malaysia we found that all Malaysian leading businessmen are similar to SL business community.

    Malaysian and Sri Lankan business community seek more easier means as business :  Plantation , Tourism and Trading commodities and Assets (real estate ). They have easy access to banks and finance. Yet export orientation and manufacturing is what lacks in these big giants of SL.
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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:11 pm

    " Ode to My Father " is nice South Korean movie where you can ride a roller-coaster of emotions. Its about a young boy who run-away from North Korea and become a owner of a small sales outlet of his Aunt. He never give-up the trading business as his father has promised to meet him in the shop ( who must have died in North Korea).

    His sons often argue

    " Why don't you sell your stall as no one is interested in buying Japanese and American products ?"

    This is the trend we are yet to see..

    However our poor forex is now forcing us to get into export and manufacturing sooner..

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    Post by Backstage Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:07 pm

    Consessions for branded goods were mentioned by FM, to make SL a shopping paradise. So....
    What do we know about Ashok Pathirage ? Not much has been written about the man and his method.

    BTW, observing the many comparative charts posted by you on many threads, I have noticed Hayles standing above the crowd. Albeit silently.
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    Post by yellow knife Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:25 pm

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    Even for me Hayleys is the most attractive and since the day I noticed and started buying its price started to drop.

    If you read Hayl.N0000 thread today and a seperate thread by Nihal , it shows the most accurate investor Dammika is slowly by clearly buying Hayleys. He has increased his stake substantially since the last published report and now enjoy above 50%.

    The graphs often easy to understand and just give us ideas.
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    Post by HAL9000 Wed May 25, 2016 5:35 pm

    SOFTLOGIC HOLDINGS PLC
    Company ID: - SHL
    Date of Announcement: - 24.May.2016
    Rate of Dividend: - Rs. 0.50 per share / Final Dividend
    Financial Year: - 2015/2016
    XD: - 02.Jun.2016
    Payment: - 13.Jun.2016

    Softlogic declares a generous dividend when compared to its EPS. In a company with huge debt this is not a good strategy I guess !
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    Post by yellow knife Thu May 26, 2016 8:17 am

    You have raised a very valuable question Hal..Why does a company with heavy debt pay dividends ?

    1. The owner of SHL Ashoka Pathirage owns 41.64% or 324,358,030 shares and 50 cents mean Rs. 162,179,015.

    2. Yet the problem is something economists are really interested and do research.

    Hal if you are really keen on further studying the dividend and debt refer page 290 of "Against the God "..

    Let me just add a paragraph of that...

    Why corporations pay dividends has puzzled economists for a long period. Why do they pay their assets do stockholders, especially when they themselves are borrowing money at the same time ?

    From 1959 to 1994 non financial corporations in US borrowed more than $ 2 trillion while paying out dividends of $ 1.8 Trillion.

    They could have avoided nearly 90% of the increase in their indebtedness if they had paid no dividends at all.

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    So  you are not the first one to raise this question and SHL.N0000 is not the only company that do so...
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    Post by HAL9000 Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:51 am

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    Revenue increased significantly, despite higher interest expenses, SHL showed decent bottom line growth
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    Post by Danidu Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:07 pm

    Corporate Research Report of "Softlogic Holdings PLC" by Asha Phillip Securities.


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    Post by smallville Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:56 am

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    Post by HAL9000 Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:27 am

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    Post by HAL9000 Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:25 pm

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    Audited financial report is availble. SHL managed to improve its revenue massively. Now it is staggering 56 billion. In last month Echelon magazine interview, Ashok Pathirage mentioned that the SHL revenue target for the next year is 70 billion. According to the trend this is not impossible. It might reach the JKH revenue sooner. If debt burden eased in next few years, SHL could report massive bottom line growth considering their lucrative business sectors. According to Pathirage he is comfortable with the current debt position. He believes in case of a crisis, he can sell off one single entity like ODEL, one ASIR hospital or movenpick hotel etc and get rid of all debt. SHL has been a disappointment for investors over past 4 years post IPO, but future could be different. if we get in right time, SHL could be a  possible multibagger in coming years.
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    Post by HAL9000 Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:59 pm

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    Post by Future123 Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:01 pm

    A very good call HAL. Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

    SHL has great potential. If they can reduce their debts, then this will have a big run.

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    Post by yaka Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:03 pm

    I was keenly watching this.. but I see they rally and every time again fall to 13 level. so I did several trade with small margins.
    and in their statement revenue increased basically for other operating income. is that their other subsidiaries? or what?
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    Post by Ethical Trader Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:18 am

    Just an observation.

    Latest financial report of SHL shows an improvement in its EPS. This is a good news for those who bought at higher prices.

    It is very strange that the price of this share started a run one week prior to the release of the financial statement.

    ?Was there a leak or some one is using inside info to profit. Raj Rajarathnam, a Sri Lankan domiciled in USA, did this but in jail right now for that offense.
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    Post by EBHRAHIMCANADA Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:32 am

    Well come all the members in this sentiment and thanks for all who posted in this head
    may I just post my current view on SHL ?
    It looks fundamentally sound group and had massive run towards 27rs from 12rs mainly triggered by PP & RI @ 17rs
    (I also got subscribed for RI and still holding)
    on friday we saw good interest and traded more than 2 million
    So I expect to see run in from CMP ( 21.40rs) to test 25 level in coming weeks
    it is compulsory to do your own Analysis before whatever buying or selling
    Good Luck Guys
    Thank you
    Warmly well come forum members views
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    Post by EBHRAHIMCANADA Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:04 pm

    Continued foreign buying @ top of the list
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    Post by ruwan326 Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:23 am

    Macroeconomic crisis in Oct-Dec. quarter triggers Rs. 327 m loss at Softlogic
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    A macroeconomic crisis-filled third quarter October to December 2018 has triggered a Rs. 327 million loss at Softlogic Holdings PLC, as against a profit of Rs. 953 million a year earlier, whilst for the first nine months the Group post-tax profit managed a 29% gain to cross Rs. 2 billion mark.

    Softlogic Chairman Ashok Pathirage said the Group’s operating environment in the third quarter of FY19 was assailed by the sudden and steep depreciation of the rupee, particularly, affecting the retail imports and the leisure sector which has dollar-denominated borrowings. Furthermore, the 100% cash margin imposition, which affected the retail imports, and 200% margin for motor vehicles and motorbikes, disrupted cashflow timings leading to increased working capital requirements. 

    “This coupled with increasing interest rates triggered by poor market liquidity and rising Fed rates impacted cost of financing for the Group which dampened the quarter’s performance,” he said.

    More- http://www.ft.lk/front-page/Macroeconomic-crisis-in-Oct-Dec--quarter-triggers-Rs--327-m-loss-at-Softlogic/44-673155

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