The Investor Sentiment - Equity and investments forum for Sri Lankans



Join the forum, it's quick and easy

The Investor Sentiment - Equity and investments forum for Sri Lankans

The Investor Sentiment - Equity and investments forum for Sri Lankans

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
The Investor Sentiment - Equity and investments forum for Sri Lankans

The Lankan Investor Forum - A more respectable and reasonable place for members to discuss matters regarding the CSEThe Lankan Investor Forum - A more respectable and reasonable place for members to discuss matters regarding the CSE

Please send an email to contact.lankaninvestor@gmail.com if you face any technical difficulties when posting

Latest topics

» CIFC Dumps to Expand Your Possibilities to Pass Your Exam
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 19, 2024 10:30 am by faithhharris

» CCS.N0000 ( Ceylon Cold Stores)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 20, 2024 11:31 am by Hawk Eye

» Sri Lanka plans to allow tourists from August, no mandatory quarantine
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 13, 2023 12:16 pm by lauryfriese

» When Will It Be Safe To Invest In The Stock Market Again?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 19, 2023 6:41 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Dividend Announcements
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 12, 2023 5:41 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» MAINTENANCE NOTICE / නඩත්තු දැනුම්දීම
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Apr 06, 2023 3:18 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» ඩොලර් මිලියනයක මුදල් සම්මානයක් සහ “ෆීල්ඩ්ස් පදක්කම” පිළිගැනීම ප්‍රතික්ෂේප කළ ගණිතඥයා
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 02, 2023 7:28 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» SEYB.N0000 (Seylan Bank PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 30, 2023 9:25 am by yellow knife

» Here's what blind prophet Baba Vanga predicted for 2016 and beyond: It's not good
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 30, 2023 9:25 am by HaeroMaero

» The Korean Way !
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 29, 2023 7:09 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» In the Meantime Within Our Shores!
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 27, 2023 5:51 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» What is Known as Dementia?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 24, 2023 10:09 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» SRI LANKA TELECOM PLC (SLTL.N0000)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2023 5:18 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» THE LANKA HOSPITALS CORPORATION PLC (LHCL.N0000)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2023 5:10 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Equinox ( වසන්ත විෂුවය ) !
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2023 4:28 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» COMB.N0000 (Commercial Bank of Ceylon PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 19, 2023 4:11 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» REXP.N0000 (Richard Pieris Exports PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 19, 2023 4:02 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» RICH.N0000 (Richard Pieris and Company PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 19, 2023 3:53 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Do You Have Computer Vision Syndrome?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 18, 2023 7:36 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» LAXAPANA BATTERIES PLC (LITE.N0000)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 16, 2023 11:23 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» What a Bank Run ?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 15, 2023 5:33 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» 104 Technical trading experiments by HUNTER
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 15, 2023 4:27 pm by katesmith1304

» GLAS.N0000 (Piramal Glass Ceylon PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 15, 2023 7:45 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Cboe Volatility Index
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 14, 2023 5:32 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» AHPL.N0000
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 12, 2023 4:46 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» TJL.N0000 (Tee Jey Lanka PLC.)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 12, 2023 4:43 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» CTBL.N0000 ( CEYLON TEA BROKERS PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 12, 2023 4:41 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY PLC (COMD. N.0000))
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 10, 2023 4:43 pm by yellow knife

» Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 10, 2023 1:47 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» CSD.N0000 (Seylan Developments PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 10, 2023 10:38 am by yellow knife

» PLC.N0000 (People's Leasing and Finance PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 09, 2023 8:02 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Bakery Products ?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 08, 2023 5:30 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» NTB.N0000 (Nations Trust Bank PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 05, 2023 7:24 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Going South
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 04, 2023 10:47 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» When Seagulls Follow the Trawler
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 02, 2023 10:22 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Re-activating
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 25, 2023 5:12 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» අපි තමයි හොඳටම කරේ !
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 14, 2023 3:54 pm by ruwan326

» මේ අර් බුධය කිසිසේත්ම මා විසින් නිර්මාණය කල එකක් නොවේ
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 03, 2023 6:43 pm by ruwan326

» SAMP.N0000 (Sampath Bank PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 30, 2022 8:24 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» APLA.N0000 (ACL Plastics PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 18, 2022 7:49 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» AVOID FALLING INTO ALLURING WEEKEND FAMILY PACKAGES.
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 16, 2022 9:28 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Banks, Finance & Insurance Sector Chart
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 15, 2022 5:26 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» VPEL.N0000 (Vallibel Power Erathna PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 13, 2022 12:15 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» DEADLY COCKTAIL OF ISLAND MENTALITY AND PARANOID PERSONALITY DISORDER MIX.
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2022 6:36 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» WATA - Watawala
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 05, 2022 8:44 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» KFP.N0000(Keels Food Products PLC)
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 05, 2022 8:42 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Capital Trust Broker in difficulty?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 21, 2022 5:25 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» IS PIRATING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY A BOON OR BANE?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 20, 2022 10:13 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» What Industry Would You Choose to Focus?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 11, 2022 6:39 pm by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

» Should I Stick Around, or Should I Follow Others' Lead?
Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 11, 2022 9:07 am by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා

Disclaimer


Information posted in this forum are entirely of the respective members' personal views. The views posted on this open online forum of contributors do not constitute a recommendation buy or sell. The site nor the connected parties will be responsible for the posts posted on the forum and will take best possible action to remove any unlawful or inappropriate posts.
All rights to articles of value authored by members posted on the forum belong to the respective authors. Re-using without the consent of the authors is prohibited. Due credit with links to original source should be given when quoting content from the forum.
This is an educational portal and not one that gives recommendations. Please obtain investment advises from a Registered Investment Advisor through a stock broker

+8
Admin
RPPA
stockback
chutiputha
Future123
slstock
Seyon
Sriranga
12 posters

    Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015

    avatar
    RPPA
    Top contributor
    Top contributor


    Posts : 605
    Join date : 2014-11-28

    Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 Empty Re: Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015

    Post by RPPA Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:39 am

    First Guy wrote:RPPA - can you shed some light on the private placements that happened earlier?

    Yes there were private placements happened under previous regime. And they also had played the game, where they have offered the lending party max 0.50%-1.00% higher than the normal rate (Never 2.50% above) for larger chunk of money (25Bn or above).In normal scene we know when some one is willing to provide lend large chunk of money you need to pay a premium don't you. That's what has happened. Those sort of things happen not only Sri Lanka but all over the world.That is what a private placement is there for.

    But i have not heard a thing like what had happen on 30Yr Bond in any country other than under Mehendran.

    But those placements had no effect in the market or the rate fluctuations in the overall economy (now AWPLR is climbing, FD rates are high, Equity market is falling etc had happen).That is the difference. As I said before I am not going to say what they have done is correct. And I am not afraid to say that MR is the biggest crook in this country & he along with his family influenced all other officials to dance to their tunes. You all know if those officials say no what will happen.
    slstock
    slstock
    Veteran
    Veteran


    Posts : 6216
    Join date : 2014-06-12

    Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015 - Page 2 Empty Re: Treasury bill auction held on 18 March 2015

    Post by slstock Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:36 am

    Yes I also like to also see a transparent and fair system .
    The past 30 year bond event did not qualify such in my thinking and that why I wrote my concerns.

    If someone bidded for 10.5% ( as CB inferred 9.5%) they got it.
    But anyone who bidded for 12.5% also got it.

    Even leaving out the short term issues it created for market and the confidence harm that anyway does not sound fair.

    To be fair , even if they badly needed money
    1) every one should have been given 12.5% ( highest accepted)
    2) or this bond has to be cancelled.

    Alternative options should have been to collect money from a) an emergency short term Bond b) treasury bills c) plan/identify this issue to get it from a past or future bond









    RPPA wrote:
    slstock wrote:RPPA,

    What is the main concern you find with this recent  rate  flucuations  for primary dealer  to  conduct business? Is it the more than  expected unpredictability and uncertainty in secondary markets?



    1)  To my thinking   any primary dealer would have  expected some secondary market rate change in jan-February due to $ bond payment issues . Am I right? Also due to political instability. They are wiser and more resourceful than share traders naturally.  So  I would have guessed some dealers  may have sold some part to protect themselves in anticipation and be ready to buy at the higher rates as risk mitigation.  

    I do see  Perpetual would have made a killing 2 ways ( selling before the rise and buying at the maybe highest).  As they some how seems to have cash to meet transactions deadlines.

    2) I see this goverment/CB also wants to keep rates low as possible ( primary rates) . So there is indication that we can expect rates to stalibilize if they do not keep making messes.




    Note   I too am very against the procedure followed by CB in the 30 yer old bond matter and then lifting the 5% rate   out of a monetary policy meeting. This is not acceptable transparency.   Also Perpetual  deals I find fishy too. It  also  not they never had issues before.


    See my posts  
    https://forum.lankaninvestor.com/t4461-cb-fiasco-and-cse-future
    https://forum.lankaninvestor.com/t4555-note-to-government-and-members-to-understand


    So don't think I don't agree that some irregularities have happened.
    But am trying to understand  the issues from dealer perspective.  I saw PM also saying something like he will  not dance to Primary dealer requests

    As you said it is uncertainty for sure. But the problem currently PDs are facing is unpredictable uncertainty. So no client is willing to take any positions. Because the big clients, foreigners & the whole market had lost faith in the Governor. Now the market had already had concluded that the Governor is a deal maker after the issue of 30 Bond & the way CBSL issued other bonds in descending order (based on maturity) rather than issuing them in a ascending order. Which is the only way the Government could have benefited. Why they could have raised the required amount of funds at lower cost.

    Actually though the government has changed there was not much of a disaster in the economy.Inflation is at the rock bottom. IMF also says Sri lanka doesn't need any immediate financial support.But industry expected an interest rate increase of 0.50 max to absorb miner shocks you have pointed out nothing more. So every body started selling due to fear the rate would have sky rocketing before the elections.

    By profession Mahendran is  dealer in HSBC in Singapore in the Investment Banking section. So he is a deal maker. Therefor I don't thing anybody needs rocket science to understand what he has done here. Wink
    And please note Perpetual (PP) didn't stop from 30Yr Bond. They continuously & successfully subscribed for other Bonds that came later at higher rates without any fear. So all these are pre planned deals. And now they don't care whether their Primary Dealership is cancelled. Because to get a PD license minimum capital Requirement is Rs.300Mn. And now they could have made at least 2Bn in less than 2 years.Currently half of the market players had stopped dealing with PP due to things that had taken place.And i got to know that Mr. Cabrals wife also director of PP. So this is some kind of a continuation from previous regime. And it got stronger with the appointment of Mahendran.But the previous regime had not interfered the markets.So others not effected much.

    PM does not need to react for PD requests. What PDs requests is to have a true, fair & confidential bidding system with out any fevers to known parties. That is to have a fair playing field. No one request favors from any other than PP.

    In my opinion for this Governer to understand to system only it will take alt least a year if not more. He is like a alien at the few meetings held. The few words he spoke are rubbish i heard from colleges.

    So he should go. It is simple as that.

      Current date/time is Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:24 pm