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Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:59 am
Now the World Cup Cricket 2015 has entered its Super 8 stage and all four Test playing Asian teams are in the Super 8 stage.

The fans and money is in the Asian region and I am sure it will be a big boost for broadcasters.

Seeing thousands of fans clad in their favorite team’s attire swarming into ground, I could not help asking aloud the above question.

Most of them are either first or second generation Aussies, but clad in their former place of domicile (or of their parents') team's attire and supporting the team (when it is pitted against their present host country) is not amounting to breach of their pledged allegiance?
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That shows how much they love their motherland. When you are out of the country, you feel it more than ever.
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pushpakumara wrote:That shows how much they love their motherland. When you are out of the country, you feel it more than ever.

True allegiance is serving your own nation and where the need is greater.
They lick the backsides of other nations to get slightly ahead in life, take the free education with them, put in airs, forget their parents and grand parents and abandon their duties as citizens, parents, children for selfish motives.

Then they south their conscience by wearing a T shirt bearing their motherland and walk about as if they have done the greatest duty on earth!

Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
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pushpakumara wrote:That shows how much they love their motherland. When you are out of the country, you feel it more than ever.

True allegiance is serving your own nation and where the need is greater.
They lick the backsides of other nations to get slightly ahead in life, take the free education with them, put in airs, forget their parents and grand parents and abandon their duties as citizens, parents, children for selfish motives.

Then they south their conscience by wearing a T shirt bearing their motherland and walk about as if they have done the greatest duty on earth!

Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

To an extent you are right. Just a short answer due to time constraints. People go abroad for various reasons but mainly for their own benefit. Just imagine the situation in the country if they have not gone out of country and continue to work in SL. By going abroad they have created opportunities for others take in. Also the inward remittances country receive from people living overseas is a major source of foreign income for SL. They probably would have created more wealth in SL than if they have worked in SL. So by limiting their skills/experience within SL will not help SL to grow as a nation.  Just a little eg. SL sends soldiers to Haiti under UN flag. This creates wealth for Soldier as well as in SL. Like wise there are other examples around if you could dig for some.
This is a topic which needs to be discussed in length  and I agree there are pros and cons in people going abroad. Very Happy
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Thanks for short and lengthy answers posted but the question of question of allegiance has still not been answered.
(I remember some years back, when Pakistan won a match against SL, some who were working in abattoirs have lite up some crackers and the incident create some sort of rift between some communities).
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කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Thanks for short and lengthy answers posted but the question of question of allegiance has still not been answered.
(I remember some years back, when Pakistan won a match against SL, some who were working in abattoirs have lite up some crackers and the incident create some sort of rift between some communities).

I think you ask this question in relation to Australia.

In Australia you will find Citizens, permanent residents, temporary residents , people who came  on business visa and tourists visa etc.

On the day of the match you will find people representing all these above categories. But  Oath of Allegiance applicable for citizens of Australia only.

The wording of the Oath of Allegiance taken by newly naturalising Australian citizens has changed over time

In 1994 the Oath was replaced with a Pledge of Commitment to Australia:
From this time forward, under God,I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey

As an Australian citizen you must:
•obey the law
•defend Australia should the need arise
•serve on a jury if called to do so
•vote in federal and state or territory elections, and in a referendum

By saying so they are not prevented from
•Freedom of speech and freedom of expression
•Freedom of association
•Freedom of religion

So it is a matter of freedom of expression which is highly respected  and a country with people from different  cultural backgrounds who have the freedom to believe the religions they are belonging to.

So in short there is no issue whether you support SL, India or Pakistan or any other country for that matter while being a citizen of Australia.  :

Hope I answered your question to best of my knowledge. D


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Yes and + rep (something I rarely give). Very Happy
pushpakumara wrote:
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Thanks for short and lengthy answers posted but the question of question of allegiance has still not been answered.
(I remember some years back, when Pakistan won a match against SL, some who were working in abattoirs have lite up some crackers and the incident create some sort of rift between some communities).
I think you ask this question in relation to Australia.

In Australia you will find Citizens, permanent residents, temporary residents , people who came  on business visa and tourists visa etc.

On the day of the match you will find people representing all these above categories. But  Oath of Allegiance applicable for citizens of Australia only.

The wording of the Oath of Allegiance taken by newly naturalising Australian citizens has changed over time

In 1994 the Oath was replaced with a Pledge of Commitment to Australia:
From this time forward, under God,I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey

As an Australian citizen you must:
•obey the law
•defend Australia should the need arise
•serve on a jury if called to do so
•vote in federal and state or territory elections, and in a referendum

By saying so they are not prevented from
•Freedom of speech and freedom of expression
•Freedom of association
•Freedom of religion

So it is a matter of freedom of expression which is highly respected  and a country with people from different  cultural backgrounds who have the freedom to believe the religions they are belonging to.

So in short there is no issue whether you support SL, India or Pakistan or any other country for that matter while being a citizen of Australia.  :

Hope I answered your question to best of my knowledge. D
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කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Yes and + rep (something I rarely give). Very Happy
pushpakumara wrote:
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Thanks for short and lengthy answers posted but the question of question of allegiance has still not been answered.
(I remember some years back, when Pakistan won a match against SL, some who were working in abattoirs have lite up some crackers and the incident create some sort of rift between some communities).
I think you ask this question in relation to Australia.

In Australia you will find Citizens, permanent residents, temporary residents , people who came  on business visa and tourists visa etc.

On the day of the match you will find people representing all these above categories. But  Oath of Allegiance applicable for citizens of Australia only.

The wording of the Oath of Allegiance taken by newly naturalising Australian citizens has changed over time

In 1994 the Oath was replaced with a Pledge of Commitment to Australia:
From this time forward, under God,I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey

As an Australian citizen you must:
•obey the law
•defend Australia should the need arise
•serve on a jury if called to do so
•vote in federal and state or territory elections, and in a referendum

By saying so they are not prevented from
•Freedom of speech and freedom of expression
•Freedom of association
•Freedom of religion

So it is a matter of freedom of expression which is highly respected  and a country with people from different  cultural backgrounds who have the freedom to believe the religions they are belonging to.

So in short there is no issue whether you support SL, India or Pakistan or any other country for that matter while being a citizen of Australia.  :

Hope I answered your question to best of my knowledge. D

Many thanks to you Kith for the consideration given to my answer. Very Happy
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කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Now the World Cup Cricket 2015 has entered its Super 8 stage and all four Test playing Asian teams are in the Super 8 stage.

The fans and money is in the Asian region and I am sure it will be a big boost for broadcasters.

Seeing thousands of fans clad in their favorite team’s attire swarming into ground, I could not help asking aloud the above question.

Most of them are either first or second generation Aussies, but clad in their former place of domicile (or of their parents') team's attire and supporting the team (when it is pitted against their present host country) is not amounting to breach of their pledged allegiance?

If I am an australian citizen, I will think twice to support any other team, or else I wish both teams.
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කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Now the World Cup Cricket 2015 has entered its Super 8 stage and all four Test playing Asian teams are in the Super 8 stage.

The fans and money is in the Asian region and I am sure it will be a big boost for broadcasters.

Seeing thousands of fans clad in their favorite team’s attire swarming into ground, I could not help asking aloud the above question.

Most of them are either first or second generation Aussies, but clad in their former place of domicile (or of their parents') team's attire and supporting the team (when it is pitted against their present host country) is not amounting to breach of their pledged allegiance?

If I am an australian citizen, I will think twice to support any other team, or else I wish both teams.
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