Re: Gota's Era

[ruwan326]

Admin,

Can we change the name of this forum to GOTAS INVESTOR SENTIMENT....
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[quote="yellow knife"]  

Date
ASI
News



30-Sep-19
5738.24
Gotabaya to Face Courts on Citizenship
2-Oct-19 5697.93 First Hearing of Gota Citizen issue
3-Oct-19 5,677.50
4-Oct-19 5689.9 Gota case dismissed
7-Oct-19 5,710.21 Nominations Finallised
8-Oct-19 5,738.90
9-Oct-19 5,809.59 SLFP support Gota

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මේවා දැක්කාම කොහෙන් හිනාවෙන්නද කියලා හිතාගන්න බැහැ .......... Fourm එක වැටිච්ච තැනක්...........

Shares සහ company වලට සෘජුවම බලපාන කරුනුවෙණුවට ජනාධිපති සහ ASIP සැසදීම මා මෙතෙක් දුටු ලොකුම විහිළුවයි ....

තව දුරත් මේ Forum එකේ කාලය කා දැමීමට මා අදහස් නොකරමි ..... වවාගත්ත මිරිස් පැල ටිකට compost පොහොර ටිකක් හදාගන්න යනවා ...    

මෙතෙක් කල් සහයෝගය දැක්වූ /Red flag දුන්න හැමෝටම ජය ............. YK I do not have any personal issues with you or any one here, but this is highly unprofessional effort.

[yellow knifeTop contributor]

Sorry I could not insert the entire picture...

Shares සහ company වලට සෘජුවම බලපාන කරුනුවෙණුවට ජනාධිපති සහ ASIP සැසදීම මා මෙතෙක් දුටු ලොකුම විහිළුවයි ....

Now evaluate the CBK era and ASI and please re-write your statement.

[Topcat]

thanks YK. please continue your thread and appreciate your time taken to educate us.

[yellow knifeTop contributor]

I think I should explain the purpose of this thread. If you see the chart above during CBK era market fell down immediately with her appointment and remained in sleeping mode until she left office. We can name that era as CBK and CSE.

We don't know the direction CSE is floating with Gota. But unlike the popular belief that Share price is purely depending on performance of its company, I would suggest many other factors affect including politics.

Instead of doing forensic audits like ASI jumped up with immediate ........ of ..... etc, I like to keep the thread analyzing with charts when things are happening.


I personally believe that these Era's of markets affect our portfolios unless you beat the market. I know many traders often beat the market with a single share. But a person like me, a long term investor with diversified portfolio will find the value of the portfolio moves with the market.

[Lee Goh]

YK Great job & we appreciate your sincere effort. Backstage your penultimate post (praised by SLStock) is truly spot on. Await GR tax cuts & rate reductions. MR stated speedy implementation. Seatbelts maybe mandatory.

[කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වාTop contributor]

This morning I read somewhere, the මහරගම Municipal council has started removing garbage, 10 minutes after the President has ordered them to do so.
The interesting fact is that MMC was under their control all these years.
The President should have sent all those failed officials home first and then started the clean up, then it worth as a good deed and newsworthy too.
Appointing Dr පාහර දෙනිය & Dr ගොඩහේවා to top positions affirms what many feared.
I think it is time we bring back those stickers posted on many Three Wheelers just before the PE 2019.
"හොදට තිබුන රටක් අපි වැටුන තැනක්".

[yellow knifeTop contributor]

Now my request

1. Never give a red flag, a negative respond which may discourage good writers.

2. Never quit friendships due to politics

3. Never blame anyone for your own faults...

4. Never gang up with like minded to prove your theory is write and to blame others. I use PM facility very rarely and I have never ever used that facility for plotting against any writer in this forum.

5. Be peaceful in mind. Markets may go up and come down.  But you must never get annoyed when the candidate of your choice is not selected by Majority. Majority can often go wrong. Same applies to shares.

[The Invisible]

Now my request

1. Never give a red flag, a negative respond which may discourage good writers.

2. Never quit friendships due to politics

3. Never blame anyone for your own faults...

4. Never gang up with like minded to prove your theory is write and to blame others. I use PM facility very rarely and I have never ever used that facility for plotting against any writer in this forum.

5. Be peaceful in mind. Markets may go up and come down.  But you must never get annoyed when the candidate of your choice is not selected by Majority. Majority can often go wrong. Same applies to shares.

Very true & + from me,

[The Invisible]

Also I need to say that CSE was not moved with president but with the economy. And president's action have impacted to the state of the economy to a greater extend. If all can understand this fact I don't think anyone should bother to give red flags to anyone.

[share1]

Now my request

1. Never give a red flag, a negative respond which may discourage good writers.

2. Never quit friendships due to politics

3. Never blame anyone for your own faults...

4. Never gang up with like minded to prove your theory is write and to blame others. I use PM facility very rarely and I have never ever used that facility for plotting against any writer in this forum.

5. Be peaceful in mind. Markets may go up and come down.  But you must never get annoyed when the candidate of your choice is not selected by Majority. Majority can often go wrong. Same applies to shares.

Bohoma honda adhasak wagei mage hite

[share1]

Admin,

Can we change the name of this forum to GOTAS INVESTOR SENTIMENT....
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Date
ASI
News



30-Sep-19
5738.24
Gotabaya to Face Courts on Citizenship
2-Oct-19 5697.93 First Hearing of Gota Citizen issue
3-Oct-19 5,677.50
4-Oct-19 5689.9 Gota case dismissed
7-Oct-19 5,710.21 Nominations Finallised
8-Oct-19 5,738.90
9-Oct-19 5,809.59 SLFP support Gota

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මේවා දැක්කාම කොහෙන් හිනාවෙන්නද කියලා හිතාගන්න බැහැ .......... Fourm එක වැටිච්ච තැනක්...........

Shares සහ company වලට සෘජුවම බලපාන කරුනුවෙණුවට ජනාධිපති සහ ASIP සැසදීම මා මෙතෙක් දුටු ලොකුම විහිළුවයි ....

තව දුරත් මේ Forum එකේ කාලය කා දැමීමට මා අදහස් නොකරමි ..... වවාගත්ත මිරිස් පැල ටිකට compost පොහොර ටිකක් හදාගන්න යනවා ...    

මෙතෙක් කල් සහයෝගය දැක්වූ /Red flag දුන්න හැමෝටම ජය ............. YK I do not have any personal issues with you or any one here, but this is highly unprofessional effort.

Ruwan in a wani actively forum ekata sup eka dena kenek meka hara da yama maha paduwaki
Hara noyanu mana Agoura
Sabanda api kandu nowemu
Unuunun paraya nagena

[BackstageTop contributor]

Also I need to say that CSE was not moved with president but with the economy. And president's action have impacted to the state of the economy to a greater extend. If all can understand this fact I don't think anyone should bother to give red flags to anyone.

Appreciate YK's effort. I was earlier trying to point out, in my own convoluted way, that the broader trends in CSE cannot be attributed to a single factor. Combinations of many factors determines the broader trends. I am not denying a Gota' effect in the market. So a charts mapping out each governing party effect on CSE, while anecdotally interesting, is an incomplete picture from an investing perspective.

As far as red flags are concerned... phfsttt.... urghhhh.....

[malanp]

the only factor for CSE move up is the people hope for better future. people expectations are high now, i dont know how Gota can match people hopes.

I think after appointment of state ministers on wednesday,, CSE might crash again.. people will lose confidence after seeing same old 40 thievs are back again.

lets see..

[sereneTop contributor]

Admin,

Can we change the name of this forum to GOTAS INVESTOR SENTIMENT....
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Date
ASI
News



30-Sep-19
5738.24
Gotabaya to Face Courts on Citizenship
2-Oct-19 5697.93 First Hearing of Gota Citizen issue
3-Oct-19 5,677.50
4-Oct-19 5689.9 Gota case dismissed
7-Oct-19 5,710.21 Nominations Finallised
8-Oct-19 5,738.90
9-Oct-19 5,809.59 SLFP support Gota

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මේවා දැක්කාම කොහෙන් හිනාවෙන්නද කියලා හිතාගන්න බැහැ .......... Fourm එක වැටිච්ච තැනක්...........

Shares සහ company වලට සෘජුවම බලපාන කරුනුවෙණුවට ජනාධිපති සහ ASIP සැසදීම මා මෙතෙක් දුටු ලොකුම විහිළුවයි ....

තව දුරත් මේ Forum එකේ කාලය කා දැමීමට මා අදහස් නොකරමි ..... වවාගත්ත මිරිස් පැල ටිකට compost පොහොර ටිකක් හදාගන්න යනවා ...    

මෙතෙක් කල් සහයෝගය දැක්වූ /Red flag දුන්න හැමෝටම ජය ............. YK I do not have any personal issues with you or any one here, but this is highly unprofessional effort.

Ruwan you are very Valuable Contributor to the forum.
Please stay and add value to this community.
Small disappointments are part and parcel of our life.
I had several such in this forum-it-self.
But after all most of us here are Genuine ethical members who care for each other.
All things are augurs well for bullish CSE. So please remain in the forum after spending so much of years of hard times in investment.

[LSETech Contributor]

Dear Gentlemens,

I think here we do not need any lengthy discussions regarding this. Election is over. We know the majority choice now. So, lets accept it. Let them to lead the country.

NOW
Let's get together as a team to do our best to this country. I know here we have a good educated community which we can easily do that.

So, Gentlemens lets obey the rules... Happy trading to you all...

[share1]

Matath tiyenne oya prasnemaine LSE
Oka kiyanakalma samahara minissunta terenne nane
Mechchara vatina forum ekaka oya wage melo rahak nati politics ads gena nana inna...
Mama 100% lse ekka ekagai
Ape mechchara sampath tiyena standard forum ekaka oya wage kunu danna epooooo.... pls

[slstockVeteran]

ALL OF YOU PLEASE BLOODY READ .  IT TOOK ME 1 HOUR TO TYPE/EDIT
( there is useful info on CSE past too if you read)


1)  Is anyone trying to mediate the situation here  relating the issue ?  
     No one is trying to fix the issue


a)  Ruwan wants to quit this forum ( he has quitted 2 other)   as he is not getting
    a  response  to appeal to his concerns ( from Administration and Members) 

b) YK has been a longstanding senior member keeping the forum alive for many    years.  Ruwan , though relatively  new has contributed in many ways to keep this forum alive and fight against promotions and corruption.

c) I clearly see some actions plus a misunderstading   driving the issue/wedge .


SO  PLEASE READ WITH PATIENCE AND AN OPEN MIND.



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2) When market was down in the dumps, and hardly anyone was at this forum, both YK and Ruwan was here.


You both are needed now more than ever.  The fun is only starting with all kind of games to come.  Some games are already there in the forum if you open your eyes. ( may like to stay blind ) 

You both better be here as  I will be gone soon.




a) Do you"ll remember the bad shape CSE was in when I gave the hint of a market uptrend  to come ? Was anyone  hardly  at the forum  then ?

( Now I see,  even simple promotions to smart promos happening

at the forum and nobody  care to intervene. Only going to get worse. )

  
b)  Lets   get back to the  issue.   First please  READ THE BELOW POST.
Can someone understand what am SAYING ?






c)  LET ME  STATE THIS CLEARLY :  In the medium term whoever came to power
would not have mattered . CSE needed to go up.  I can give so many reasons why.  


But Gota coming to power , with some promises of  favorable corporate Tax cuts etc
combined with market players, boosted the sentiments of a battered CSE . It may help  to make a quicker uptrend ( read the post below for further info ) . That I agree.


CITW/REEF/CLND would not have  run  like this if  Sajith was expected to come right? 


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THE VIEWS  CAUSING  CONFUSION  HERE



YK VIEW :  YK believes the Government / President has an impact on CSE.


a)  Logically it can.  The Government policies, tax cuts, economic boosts
and also market players/pushes help CSE.


Ex1:  Did you remember during MR era what happened? How EPF money was thrown
at CSE to uplift the index at times maybe artificially ? ( Do you know EPF  losses are still about of Rs 25 Billion from BAD share investments )



Ex2: During YP times, sadly nothing really was done to boost the confidence at CSE, though economy was starting to slowly change gear to positive.


How many of you got upbeat,  when you heard EPF ( CB governor)  was trying to  buy from CSE . Market went up somewhat.  So the sentiment was already slightly changing positive. Then Bomb blast happened.

  

Note : Actually EPF did buy from the market ( DIAL at Rs 9 , SAMP and few other
which I will not talk details about)



In summary , Government actions can boost Sentiments at CSE investors/traders. We are not a wise race to identify value , buy early and hold with patience. Many only join in when a trend  happened

( do you see some changes in the forum regarding member posts ) 






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RUWAN  VIEW :  Ruwan  is fighter to create a cleaner society.



He is also  not fan of  MR/GR and he observes many people in SL have

become "slaves" ( as he says) to ignore the wrong they did.  Well same theory  applies to YP or UNP or JVP too



He sees this topic directly relating GOTA actions to  progress of  CSE
is not right,  ignoring other external facts that make CSE tick. I believe he sees this as another promotion on GOTA.



This is why in the below post I said to mediate  





"Bottom line :

Let discuss both positive and negative things during Gota Era that affects country and CSE. But lets not  be biased on either end which ever political party one supports."




Did anyone of you listen?
NOOOOO.

Now things are dragging on. 

Ruwan wants to quit too. 




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As much as GOTA government can have positive effect at CSE  due to expected promises of


a) Tax cuts
b) economic reforms
c) ....




we need to be beware and also talk about


a) what if GOTA does not keep his word.



b) what about the below news items ...


LET'S BE IMPARTIAL HERE. As ethical people, do you see these as

positive or negative to market ?


- Sri Lanka to make laws to clear state workers from prosecution: PM

https://economynext.com/sri-lanka-to-make-laws-to-clear-state-workers-from-prosecution-pm-33386/


-Shani Abeysekara case

Shani’s transfer seen as politically motivated
Shani Abeysekara first casualty in CID

http://www.themorning.lk/shani-abeysekara-first-casualty-in-cid/
https://colombogazette.com/2019/11/23/shanis-transfer-seen-as-politically-motivated/

-Sri Lanka's new president picks brother Mahinda Rajapaksa as PM
( That what international people see as )


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/sri-lanka-prime-minister-set-resign-election-setback-191120111642357.html


No Muslim minister appointed as Sri Lanka swears in new Cabinet
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1588261/world



CAN ALL THIS  EFFECT MARKET MOOD AND TRUST ?





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LET WRAP UP

LOOK : YK,  RUWAN and EVERYONE ELSE ( including red reppers).

I took all this time to make this post for you.




Ruwan :


* People have elected GOTA/MR democratically due to failures of YP.
   Good or bad , there is no going back. So best to give them a chance.


* I can assure you, if they mess it up this time, guess what going
   to happen in 2024 ?



* I know YK for a long time. I can tell you one thing. He is not here to manipulate market.  But YK believes somewhat  in dictators and he is partial to a Gota government as YP did not do much.  



* YK did promise this thread info  will be useful to GOTA supporters and opposers too.
 So give him a chance to prove himself as an Event / info source of GOTA actions
vs  CSE.  Also remember with time , what is positive can turn negative  due  to  actions.  We saw same happening with YP.  YK keeping track maybe useful for all parties.  


If this thread really bothers you, let it go.
(I am letting go of other  another smart promo  in the forum as no one else
bothers  to question or care. I can't always be the bad one )


Do not quit as your presence here is needed.
It not wise to leave over this.

Contribute as you do.



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YK :  


- I suggest that it will be best to co-relate BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE EFFECTS to CSE by  GOTA/MR ACTIONS/NEWS.  I think you missed some latest issues which I showed . Those might have some effect in the CSE red too.



- A balanced input  will show your objectives in greater light and avoid misunderstandings. Ruwan and  others may not be used to your style and otherwise  think you are promoting GOTA continously




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OTHERS :


FREAKING STOP GIVING RUWAN RED.

YOU ARE NOT  MAKING RUWAN TO CHANGE HIS MIND BY RED REPS.

IF YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING TO HIM SAY IT STRAIGHT. 


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ps :


* Quite frankly am quite pissed of with certain things happening in the forum.
But my effort here is to add sense to sort out this mess . So will not digress.




* I see some brand new accounts suddenly making lot of posts.
Welcome to the forum if you are genuine. Else ...

Let me see I can add further sense/balance  


1) YK,

I hope you continue to post both positive and negative  issues during Gota era that affects the country and CSE . Knowing you , I presume you have no problem of others posting opposing views  ( ofcourse  in a decent manner )



2) Gota , Sajith  and CSE

Market uptrend was due for a long time. Gota or no Gota.

If Sajith got elected ,  in short term I think there would have been some dip in ASI temporarily. WHY?

a) YP or UNP did nothing concrete to boost CSE during their era . So there would not be any immediate confidence change in public if Sajith came. Bit of time was needed to see what Sajith does to boost CSE.  We saw there was hardly any market players in YP camp.


b) Gota clan has some big CSE market players as we well know.   Ethical or not. They push up and do things to push down too as politically needed.  

Below announcement/reply  on CITW  was expected and not a surprise.

https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/announcement_portal_prod/Reply%20to%20SEC%20Letter%20-%20Unusual%20Trading%20Activity_247121862254922.pdf


c) But even with Sajith, CSE would have started to go
up with time. WHY ? Several reasons. But 1 simple fact. When bank interests  are so low, where else will people put their money for better returns? ( property has it own issues )

As Gota was elected, there was/will be  certainly a boost in confidence to expedite CSE ups.  

But this does not mean that Gota is making  CSE up fundamentally.  Fundamentally, on valuations and due to somewhat slowly recovering economy , the stage was already set for CSE to go up in medium term whoever comes to power.  I did a post / vote on
before signalling this uptrend to come.


ps :  I see no issue in Ruwan posting the recent Gota Cabinet appointments.  It certainly does affect things for country as we all should be concerned. Why ?
Explained before clearly.

But I can see how certain comments have gone beyond the topic which will aggravate some Gota fans.  But these RED reps without explanations are not done.
But Ruwan you expected it didn't you when you posted ?  Atleast for one Dhanu explained his position now.


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Bottom line :

Let discuss both positive and negative things during Gota Era that affects country and CSE. But lets not  be biased on either end which ever political party one supports.

[Lee Goh]

Policy change is coming with GR win. The key question for investors & forum members (who wish to sincerely help one another) is to have a good idea on new policy initiatives & the impact on economy & CSE. To my simple mind proposed tax cuts & ANC calling for rate cuts asap will be big ticket items. The need of the moment is rapid rollout & Big Bang approach (in lieu of phased implementation).

[yellow knifeTop contributor]

SLS

I agree with you and I never had any problem with any writer in the forum.

I will keep the thread impartial.

I am not trying to put interpretations but mere recording of actions. For an example during YP era I recorded Tea Ban of Russia and Lifting the band and its impact. But I never interpret the incident. In the same manner I keep a record like PM is MR now.

@ Ruwan

My dear friend I only remember you as a good writer in the forum . I admire your work and please do continue writing.

[malanp]

cleaning roadsides garbage, removing posters will not have any impact on CSE.
removing Muslim ministers or creating a mono-ethinic Sinhala society will not have.
Tax cut may have but the government is in need of money so dont expect a drastic tax cut.
the bigger impact on CSE will be after seeing MR and his 40 thieves again in power, then CSE will start a downturn..

[share1]

Mata hitenne nam oya politics me watina forum ekata gawa gattoth meke tiyena watina kama ehem pitimma nati wela yawi
Mama dakka ruwan ehemath politics witaramai wage kata kata karanne, mage hite shares walata wada politics wadi kiyala
Nikamata kiwwe

[Topcat]

cleaning roadsides garbage, removing posters will not have any impact on CSE.

These kind of pessimistics can be found everywhere...Never see good in anything..

[කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වාTop contributor]

I think most missed the point.

That is Red Flagging.

This triggered everything.

I know YK's intentions are all honorable.

Some members here who do not tolerate opposit views and they are the people who are calling shots in this country today.

Will Gota succeed?

Yes, of course but those successes are not for you and me.

But for him and his ඇ ම් බැ ට් ට යෝ only.

Now he does not have to fall sick when the summons come because he has the immunity.

Isn't that not a big success?

He will create another North Korea here soon.

Thereafter, whether ASI or AEL go up or down will not matter to ordinary people like you and me.

This I have been telling to all educated young people to get out of the country before it is too late.

Even some of my friends who worship MR & the clan for their own survival have asked their sons and daughters to apply for US GREEN CARD Lottery because they know in their own hearts that this gang is here to rape the people more only.

Let's see how many Red Flags I will get for this post?

[BackstageTop contributor]

There are a lot of posts on this thread and some long ones, I don't have the time to read all and don't quite know what began where. Not sure why Ruwan wants to leave, something said or this red flag business ? Whatever it is its quite clear that there is a red flag blitz, and quite clear that it is the work of trouble makers trying to get forum lose it's balance. Who's who isn't clear yet, lets see.

In the meantime lets hear out YK and see what his record keeping will reveal. I understand he is trying to show political impact on CSE movement and not start a political discussion here. Maybe some are misinterpreting the title of thread.

[nihal123Top contributor]

රතු සහ කොළ + , - ඉවත් කිරිමට යෝජනා කරමි.