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What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

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What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by cseinvestor on Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:41 pm

Since the stock market is boring now , am  writing about the possible  mystery of flight 370

If someone followed it , you will know  the missing flight is a total mystery . How did is  suddenly dissapear without any trace? Theories are now coming from missiles/military attack  , terrorist attacks ( stolen passports)  to UFO.

Look at the below video till the end?  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c#t=103

Suprised ?


I got the below facts and ideas from sites ( not sure of accuracy)

1)  Boeing 777  jets  have a black box recorders  that can survive a bomb

2)  If a missile  hit  Airplane ,  the missile should have a  radar  tracking

3)  The approx place where air craft vanish is   know


4) When a plane is hijacked it cannot  vanished from radar

5)  Usually many Aircraft part will float in water  to see

6)  BB can transmit   location signals  for a month  if went down into the ocean  


Also below article is on missile attacks

http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/missile-downed-malaysian-plane/#kraAMqbhhZlglVsE.99

So is this a cover up of a possible missile attack,  was it shot down as there is a wanted person on board,  did alien take the plane,  was the black box dissabled and plane is now at a safe location ?

For the poor people in the plane , I hope it is the last.

What do you think people?

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Jana1 on Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:38 pm

Of course. I guess flight fault. Stolen passport looks like a usual scenario. In AirIndia flight when it overshoot during landing there were 10 people with stolen passport. Few popular western news try to save boeing- claiming most safest flight in the world..

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by cseinvestor on Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:40 pm

Jana, you sure. If it is crash , then there are sign as I mentioned above ( black box , plane remains etc)

Think it might be deeper than a crash?


Jana1 wrote:Of course. I guess flight fault. Stolen passport looks like a usual scenario. In AirIndia flight when it overshoot during landing there were 10 people with stolen passport. Few popular western news try to save boeing- claiming most safest flight in the world..

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Backstage on Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:46 pm

With no intention of belittling the tragedy, it has been heard that Roscoe Maloney had bought shares in Malaysian Airlines a few days before the incident.
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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Sriranga on Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:32 pm

Latest news regarding stolen passport.

https://twitter.com/c4sparks?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anirudhsethireport.com%2F&tw_i=443296051747774464&tw_p=tweetembed

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Nuinth on Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:48 pm

At the moment they have expanded search operation with more ships & air crafts. Further, yesterday I saw Chinese foreign minister was urging the operation & asking more information from Malaysiay as 2/3 of passengers were Chinese.

Few miniatures ago I heard from BBC one of two suspects's mother call to Malaysian authorities & said her son not involved in any terrorism organisation.

But, I believe something behind the scene.

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Jana1 on Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:10 pm

cseinvestor wrote:Jana, you sure. If it is crash , then there are sign as I mentioned above ( black box , plane remains etc)

Think it might be deeper than a crash?


Jana1 wrote:Of course. I guess flight fault. Stolen passport looks like a usual scenario. In AirIndia flight when it overshoot during landing there were 10 people with stolen passport. Few popular western news try to save boeing- claiming most safest flight in the world..

No mate, The black box would be sunk with the flight. It will be taken one day may be after a year. Simply history could track the scenario. During 2008 (not too sure about year) one of Singapore airline flight travelled from perth to Singa was travelling at 11000m height and suddently dropped to 500 m due to malfunction in the softwares. Then all aircrafts SWs were updated. So this time it might have directly kit the water and settled in the sea bed.

The recent 2009 Airfrance flight which submerged in the pacific sea was found a year after. So sea surface searching sometimes meaningless if flight was not smashed in the air.

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by cseinvestor on Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:51 pm

Hope you studies what happned here? Suddenly the plane's transponder stop responding also ?

Did you also see the video I posted.


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cseinvestor wrote:Jana, you sure. If it is crash , then there are sign as I mentioned above ( black box , plane remains etc)

Think it might be deeper than a crash?


Jana1 wrote:Of course. I guess flight fault. Stolen passport looks like a usual scenario. In AirIndia flight when it overshoot during landing there were 10 people with stolen passport. Few popular western news try to save boeing- claiming most safest flight in the world..

No mate, The black box would be sunk with the flight. It will be taken one day may be after a year. Simply history could track the scenario. During 2008 (not too sure about year) one of Singapore airline flight  travelled from perth to Singa was travelling at 11000m height and suddently dropped to 500 m due to malfunction in the softwares. Then all aircrafts SWs were updated. So this time it might have directly kit the water and settled in the sea bed.

The recent 2009 Airfrance flight which submerged in the pacific sea was found a year after. So sea surface searching sometimes meaningless if flight was not smashed in the air.

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Jana1 on Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:53 pm

Mate,

Those are bullshit news for their own advertisements. If that blown up where the parts are?

u could visit flightradar24 website and see many flights vanishes. And what he shows is wrong. He was referring MAS370, actually MH370 was da one disappeared..

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:56 pm

I feel it could be a failed hijack .

These planes has transponders and other signal emitting devices to  tell its location even when main transmitters fail.

As per the latest news, the plane has changed its route and came back towards KL and passed it at an altitude of 29,000 ft and entered the Indian Ocean.  

This theory is based on the plane sighting in Malaysian military Radar near West coast , opposite of its intended path, almost an hour after it lost contact with Vietnamese ATC.

Only today they have identified a dot as the missing plane.

This is because all the transponders in the aircraft equipped to emit its identity signals  has been turned off by somebody or due to some technical reason.

It was reported, a pilot of a close by plane near Vietnam has made contact with the plane via emergency channel after ATC lost its contacts. Pilots of MH370 have not given a mayday call to him but there has been a high level of interference during the conversation.

I think somebody had diverted the plane by force to go to some other place and failed . By considering the fuel capacity I feel it crashed mid sea between Malaysia and Sri Lanka.
Could be near  the place where Upali's Learjet crashed. If not , may be in thick jungle of Northern Sumatra.

Again , auto activating distress signal from the black box is not activated !

If its transmitters and location finders developed a technical issue and they came back to land in Malaysia  the pilot could easily locate a suitable airport by following bright street lights in Malaysian capital without overflying to Indian Ocean.

If this is the case, they have searched it somewhere else for last few days.

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by First Guy on Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:40 am

I feel the same Chinwi, many signs point to hijacking.
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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by First Guy on Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:23 am

Interesting fact,

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19830213-0

Some may know about this incident
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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:00 pm

First Guy wrote:Interesting fact,

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19830213-0

Some may know about this incident

Yes, I can remember.
BTW, I was doing ATC as a hobby those days. We listened to short wave air traffic controlling conversations from Singapore to Dubai using old valve radios. 8882 khz 5673 khz..


More about emergency signal facility of B777:
the Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT) is a device that is on board the aircraft and switches on automatically to transmit signals to dedicated search and rescue satellites on impact with land or contact with water.  

B-777 has not one but four independent ELTs of two types. It seems fantastic that they would all have become inoperative.

Again, before vanishing from Radar screens the plane has vanished from Flightradar24 . That means somebody (or technical failure) has turned off ADS-B of the aircraft as the first step.
Flightradar24 web site  gives us the location of aircraft using ADS_B signals of ATC systems around the world.
(ADS-B = automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works )

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Jana1 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:13 pm

chinwi wrote:
First Guy wrote:Interesting fact,

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19830213-0

Some may know about this incident

Yes, I can remember.
BTW, I was doing ATC as a hobby those days. We listened to short wave air traffic controlling conversations from Singapore to Dubai using old valve radios. 8882 khz 5673 khz..


More about emergency signal facility of B777:
the Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT) is a device that is on board the aircraft and switches on automatically to transmit signals to dedicated search and rescue satellites on impact with land or contact with water.  

B-777 has not one but four independent ELTs of two types. It seems fantastic that they would all have become inoperative.

Again, before vanishing from Radar screens the plane has vanished from Flightradar24 . That means somebody (or technical failure) has turned off ADS-B of the aircraft as the first step.
Flightradar24 web site  gives us the location of aircraft using ADS_B signals of ATC systems around the world.
(ADS-B = automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works )

Do u think Flightradar24 video screen reported in this threat could be believable? (Previously I thought it was showing MAS370-but I guess radar reads MH370 as MAS370). The near by missing flight didn't hit the suspicious or any news. It seems that nearby missing flight has succeeded eventhough it disappeared fron radar24. If that is the case then this missing MH370 from ADS-B signal radar may not be justifiable. Isn't it? (I am not a technical expert)

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by First Guy on Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:49 pm

...and I thought I was the only one to think of it

http://lankareporter.com/lr/2014/03/11/malaysian-plane-search-revives-sri-lankan-tycoon%E2%80%99s-missing-jet-mystery/

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:12 pm

jana1,

Those two call-signs were for the same aircraft. Malaysian air MH370 operated code sharing with a Chinese operator and MAS370 was its flight number.

My argument was, disappearing from Flightradar24 caused due to turning off ADS-B and even after that it flew further.

You are correct, many flights come and go from that map. That is because most of the feeding is done by volunteers using their low cost receivers.

By the way, Malaysian military now deny any radar sighting of MH370 near Malacca. !

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by serene on Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:08 pm

Wow very interesting conversation.Thanks all. cheers 
Dearly wish that the reality will unfold very quickly for the sake of the people on board and their relatives. Sad 
Based on that we can also decide who is our "Sherlock Homes" in the forum. Surprised 

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:44 am

At last, Chinese say they have located a suspected floating object visible in a satellite image.

Yesterday an oil rig worker  , a New Zealander, claimed he witnessed a burning object falling from sky SW from his mid sea site. 8 22.3 N, 108 42.2 E .
The new finding shows he made a fair statement. He says he tried to contact officials for several days.



Mr. Mckay should be a knowledgeable person , he knows Geographic coordinates very well.

I got another map via twitter and it says the distance from new wreckage site to  last ADS-B point is 141 kms.


Then why they could not find it for last several days ?

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BTW, now they have hide email and PP numbers of that letter.

Originally the  recipient  released the letter with all the personal details and it was in net. Mr McKay is receiving thousands of emails at the moment. !


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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Jana1 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:20 am

I got another map via twitter and it says the distance from new wreckage site to  last ADS-B point is 141 kms.


Then why they could not find it for last several days ?[/quote]

May be flight would have sunk entirely. Minor crashes would have formed when it hit the water. Later when it sunk, the upward pressure would be high. One of the wing would have ribbed off and started floating. Considering the current under the water exist near malaysia this floating wing would have traveled few Kms under the water. If this object moved into the nearest location in which the search had been completed then it would have simply neglected since they have more priority to search other areas..

I hope the sea bed terrain in nearby sea would be nearly flat. Otherwise it would take another year to find flight and black box.

During last accident recorded in 2009, Airfrance flight's one wing was found just 5 days after it went missing along with 60 bodies. Then after nearly 2 years, they found full flight wreckage, inwhich rest 150 passengers appeared with seats belts on, along with black box. Because the terrain was varying from 900m to 4500 m.

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by cseinvestor on Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:39 pm

Wow ... new story..


WASHINGTON, March 13, 2014 (AFP) - US investigators suspect a missing Malaysian airliner was in the air for four hours after its last confirmed contact, and may have been diverted to an unknown location, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/news/us-suspects-missing-plane-flew-on-for-hours:-wsj-report/794239923

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:41 pm

NOw, after Chinese images revealed nothing,  USA experts also talking same thing we talked before.

"U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, the Journal reported, said citing one person tracking the probe.

Earlier on Thursday, China's civil aviation chief said there was no proof that floating objects in the South China Sea captured in satellite images on Sunday were connected to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, according to Reuters .

This raises the possibility that the plane, and the 239 people on board, could have flown on for additional distance of about 2,200 miles (3,500 km), potentially reaching the border of Pakistan or as far as destinations in the Indian Ocean or Arabian Sea, the paper said." http://www.cnbc.com/id/101489638


Some how, this means they accept a big wide bodied plane can fly like this without get detected by military radars of several countries !


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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:12 pm

Can we believe they flew so much distance without getting caught by military surveillance of many countries.


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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by Backstage on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:34 pm

This news appeared on the forum one hour before CNN, Its still not on BBC.
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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by seek on Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:05 pm

If this is a successful hijack with a most wanted person on board (or whatever reason), oh dear.. the person who did this is a genius.

I think the Malaysian government is hiding something.

Will see…

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Re: What happened to Malaysian flight 370?

Post by chinwi on Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:01 am

Update: 4.30 am 14Mar2014

Now they confirm what we thought: .

Malaysia Airliner Communications Shut Down Separately: US Officials Say

Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.

The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.

This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.

U.S. investigators told ABC News that the two modes of communication were "systematically shut down."

That means the U.S. team "is convinced that there was manual intervention," a source said.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-officials-malaysia-airline-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802

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Malaysia Airlines MH370 data suggests jet might have crashed into Indian Ocean

A missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 jetliner kept flying after it dropped off controllers’ radar screens, raising new questions about whether foul play was involved, according to people familiar with data gathered in the inquiry.

I think our forum produced and published this map many hrs before Mirror:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pentagon-3238713

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